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'88 K5 - Running Down A Dream

Ground up restoration of my '88 K5. The plan is to go through every inch of the truck and fix or replace pretty much everything that needs it. This will also be a full vert conversion and I plan to make the vehicle look more like a 73-75 than 88.
A lot of looking, reading, hoping, and praying with this front axle. I have learned a whole lot in the past few weeks. I think this pattern is worthy. Perfect no, but probably about as close as I'm going to be able to get it considering certain aspects of the gear. You may have noticed my other post in the '73 to '91 K5 section where I near panicked because I couldn't get the gears to even spin. Turns out the backlash was at zero. Since then I've changed my shim depth for the pinion several times and played with the backlash three or four times. I'm currently Running a 0.039 inch pinion shim and I've got backlash between 0.007 and 0.009. I have no clue what my carrier preload is but I know it's enough to go down the road because I had to beat the shims in with the hammer and shim driver. These gears are slightly out of round but I measured in four places and nothing was out of the backlash parameters in the instruction manual that came with the gears. I learned they were out around by measuring the axial run out. If they had been much worse I would have returned them. I still have time to change it but I think I'm going to call it good for today. I need to set the preload on my crush sleeve eliminator tomorrow. From there I'll probably press the pinion bearing on unless someone can convince me that I need to adjust my backlash or pinion shim some more.

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So while endlessly looking at parts one night, I bought one of these. I just couldn't help myself. At least now if I use 4 wheel drive I'll know that both wheels will be under power up front. I'll never drive it in snow or ice so I indulged myself a little. I'm heading to the Hotrod Reunion in Bowling Green at the drag strip this weekend. I'll start the final assembly of the front Monday.

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Locker in the front axle? Planning on hydraulic assist?

Martin
To be honest, based on what I've read I'm not convinced I need one for this rig. Since I only plan on 33s and since this style locker kicks power to the outside wheel on turns I'm not sure it'd be necessary. I also don't plan on any hard wheeling and there's really no technical trails here that aren't mud, no rocks. I'm just not sure if I'd be in a situation up front where I'd be in trouble. Plus since it's got locking hubs I'll never notice it unless they are locked. I could also kick out of 4wd in precarious scenarios or only lock one hub but I highly doubt I do much technical wheeling if any. I'm open to suggestions though. I do know even with all my upgrades stock steering is poo.
 
No pictures today. I worked on pinion bearing preload. I started out with setup bearings and got it to 17ish in lbs. I'm using a crush sleeve eliminator by Yukon instead of an actual crush sleeve, and I also got pinion yoke holder off of Amazon. Don't know how I'd held the yolk still without it unless I ripped up a 2x4 and bolted it to the yoke. Anyways, I pressed the big bearing on and then went to do the final assemble and I was way off, we're talking like 70-in lbs. I about stroked out and started counting shims to figure out what to do next with the crush sleeve eliminator. Turns out one of my shims was stuck to the setup bearing.:doah:tried it after that and was at 22 to 25-in pounds. My beam torque wrench is hard to read. Dropped it down 0.001-in in my shim thickness and nailed it, 17in lbs. If I had more time I think I could have dropped the carrier in and ran a final contact pattern but I guess that will be tomorrow. The only interesting thing is I've had at least two people tell me 20-in to 25-in pounds for the preload but literally every piece of literature I have read has said 14 to 19-in lbs so I'm going to go with the literature.
 
To be honest, based on what I've read I'm not convinced I need one for this rig. Since I only plan on 33s and since this style locker kicks power to the outside wheel on turns I'm not sure it'd be necessary. I also don't plan on any hard wheeling and there's really no technical trails here that aren't mud, no rocks. I'm just not sure if I'd be in a situation up front where I'd be in trouble. Plus since it's got locking hubs I'll never notice it unless they are locked. I could also kick out of 4wd in precarious scenarios or only lock one hub but I highly doubt I do much technical wheeling if any. I'm open to suggestions though. I do know even with all my upgrades stock steering is poo.
I had 35" tires with a front lunchbox lock right and I was fine.
You don't have to worry about it.
 
Well we're at the final assembly step. This is my final contact pattern. I would love for a little bit more pinion depth but that would require me to destroy the bearing on the pinion and start over. Considering this is the front and considering this pattern is just within being acceptable I think I'm going to send it. I'm getting a substantial amount of contact I think. Guess we'll find out if it makes a lot of racket going down the road.

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It feels weird having the axle back under the truck. Also, remember how I said I would never take the steering knuckles off and again? Well one of the ball joints wasn't seated so I got to do ball joint work again today for the third time on the passenger side. But this time it's seated and has the same amount of pull as the driver's side. I only noticed it because I noticed I had more threads sticking up on the upper joint on that side while I was doing the gear work. Tomorrow afternoon I should have wheels and tires back on it. It's kind of exciting. Of course, I've already started ordering parts for the rear, so it'll be coming out soon.

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Of course, I get to the hubs and disaster strikes. One of my new Warn hubs had a bad spring. I could turn the dial all the way past the lock position and it would just keep going. I know it's the hub because the other one worked on both sides. You'll see the faulty spring in the picture. There's probably a way to fix it but with a lifetime warranty I'll just get a new one. I tried to put the spring on but it must require a certain load. Overall though, the axle looks slick. I painted the shafts and cleared the u-joints a month ago for that subtle pop. I put brake caliper paint on the driver rotor and grill paint on the passenger a month ago too. We'll see which holds up better.

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This was a big step towards completion of this first phase of the build. First time I've seen it with all four new wheels and tires and with the ORD 3in lift. Definitely motivation to get done, as if I needed it. I'm gonna take it to the Chevy dealer for final alignment. I'm worried about camber but I know they make various adjuster rings to somewhat correct it. Still lots to do. I'm gonna start the process of removing the rear axle Monday. My goal is to be on the road by the end of July.

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Of course, I get to the hubs and disaster strikes. One of my new Warn hubs had a bad spring. I could turn the dial all the way past the lock position and it would just keep going. I know it's the hub because the other one worked on both sides. You'll see the faulty spring in the picture. There's probably a way to fix it but with a lifetime warranty I'll just get a new one. I tried to put the spring on but it must require a certain load. Overall though, the axle looks slick. I painted the shafts and cleared the u-joints a month ago for that subtle pop. I put brake caliper paint on the driver rotor and grill paint on the passenger a month ago too. We'll see which holds up better.

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Did you use the stock or Aux position for your shocks?
 
Did you use the stock or Aux position for your shocks?
I used factory location for both front and rear. It doesn't appear that this blazer was equipped with dual front shocks. The only questionable mount is the driver rear but I think it's pretty close to where it's supposed to be.
 
So here's your funny one for the day. I've actually had this rear cover off the truck to paint it 2 months ago. I never even paid attention to what carrier I have. Turns out I have one of those dreaded government locks. I thought it was odd that when I would spin one tire the other one wouldn't do anything. I'm not well versed in these other than I know that they are junk. I'm wondering if it wasn't already broke or on its way out.

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So here's your funny one for the day. I've actually had this rear cover off the truck to paint it 2 months ago. I never even paid attention to what carrier I have. Turns out I have one of those dreaded government locks. I thought it was odd that when I would spin one tire the other one wouldn't do anything. I'm not well versed in these other than I know that they are junk. I'm wondering if it wasn't already broke or on its way out.

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Well in a 10 bolt they are not great but I never broke one.
I have one in my suburban and I just changed the axle to a 14bolt semi float also with the gov loc which is a stronger one.
My 10 bolt had a bent flange on the axle flange and no trouble with the gov loc.
When you turn one wheel it should not turn too much before it locks up and turn the other side the same direction
 
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Well in a 10 bolt they are not great but I never broke one.
I have one in my suburban and I just changed the axle to a 14bolt semi float also with the gov loc which is a stringer one.
My 10 bolt had a bent flange on the axle flange and no trouble with the gov loc.
When you turn one wheel it should not turn too much before it locks up and turn the other side the same direction
Very interesting. I thought they were 10 bolt exclusive, but I've not researched them at all really. Side note: I could turn mine until the cows come home and I don't think the opposite wheel would spin. I saw the picture the other day on FB of one that grenaded. Of course, the tires and power under the hood are unknown. Nonetheless, I already have a sweet replacement lined up to go in when I change gears, I just haven't snapped a photo yet of my new parts pile.
 
How are you planning to use the truck? I would keep it.

Martin
I plan on it being a cruiser/nice daily. No hard wheeling. That said, I have overbuilt the front and will do the same back here. I like that it will be relatively stout when it comes to the drivetrain. Also, I have not settled on the amount of horsepower I'm going to get out of the motor I put in it. Either just below or north of 400 horsepower is kind of where I'm looking to go. This truck is a long term not a short-term project so I'm not afraid to put nice things in it. Also, I have this sweet Eaton Truetrac 30 spline that will go in it. I'm pretty sure there's no contest on which one is more reliable and stronger. I have 30 spline axles that were supposed to show up today but apparently something went wrong with the shipment and they're coming tomorrow.

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I plan on it being a cruiser/nice daily. No hard wheeling. That said, I have overbuilt the front and will do the same back here. I like that it will be relatively stout when it comes to the drivetrain. Also, I have not settled on the amount of horsepower I'm going to get out of the motor I put in it. Either just below or north of 400 horsepower is kind of where I'm looking to go. This truck is a long term not a short-term project so I'm not afraid to put nice things in it. Also, I have this sweet Eaton Truetrac 30 spline that will go in it. I'm pretty sure there's no contest on which one is more reliable and stronger. I have 30 spline axles that were supposed to show up today but apparently something went wrong with the shipment and they're coming tomorrow.

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I like the true trac better on small axles like this
 
I like the true trac better on small axles like this
Rewind back to 2 weeks ago when I thought I had an open diff and I wasn't planning on doing anything special other than the 410 gears. I just kept reading review after review forum page after forum page about how much everyone loves these things and how great the road manners were and how well they did off-road outside of the rocks and I just couldn't resist. The Jeep forums have a small following of people that love these as well as several other forums.
 
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