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'89 R3500 Crew Cab 2wd to 4wd conversion & beyond

Started out with 2wd TBI350 with SM465 to current 4wd with 454, 700r4, NP241
Took the truck out on a snow run yesterday with the local club.

I runs so well, especially on the one good tank. It got me to thinking about my 454 TBI plans. I was budgeting to replace all of the sensors; coolant temp, MAP, knock, O2, IAC, TPS, and ESC. Couple of them I have to do regardless because I don't have them for the 454 throttle body; TPS & IAC. I need to do a 3-wire O2 sensor with the headers. I already replaced the knock sensor because it's not hooked up on my 350 so I don't know if it even works. Plus it would difficult to install in the truck. Coolant sensor is so cheap it seems a little silly not to install a new one.

So I'm wondering if I should just use the MAP and ESC off the 350TBI since I know they work. You know, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" principle.

And obligatory snow run pictures.

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Nick's rear bumper looks like it's smiling at you :D
 
Took the truck out on a snow run yesterday with the local club.

I runs so well, especially on the one good tank. It got me to thinking about my 454 TBI plans. I was budgeting to replace all of the sensors; coolant temp, MAP, knock, O2, IAC, TPS, and ESC. Couple of them I have to do regardless because I don't have them for the 454 throttle body; TPS & IAC. I need to do a 3-wire O2 sensor with the headers. I already replaced the knock sensor because it's not hooked up on my 350 so I don't know if it even works. Plus it would difficult to install in the truck. Coolant sensor is so cheap it seems a little silly not to install a new one.

So I'm wondering if I should just use the MAP and ESC off the 350TBI since I know they work. You know, "if it ain't broke don't fix it" principle.

And obligatory snow run pictures.

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Looks like fun. I need to get set up for snow wheeling and find some wheeling buddies up here. There's plenty of the white stuff not too far away.
 
So mounting the knock sensor is tricky in the 454 with the dipstick.

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Driver side would be more difficult because the same cool drain plug is somewhat under the motor mount bracket and there's not even enough room for an elbow.
 
Had to use an NPT extension to make it work. Tried an elbow first but it wouldn't fit with the dipstick. Not super thrilled about it sticking out so far but it is what it is.

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Did quite a bit of reading and there is no definitive answer, just a lot of conjecture.
 
Had to use an NPT extension to make it work. Tried an elbow first but it wouldn't fit with the dipstick. Not super thrilled about it sticking out so far but it is what it is.

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:thinking:
 
I could maybe put it here:

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It's a "blind" hole. Don't know if it would connect to the water jacket if I drilled it out; not sure I want to be drilling holes into a perfectly good block. It could be drilled and tapped to fit the sensor. It's a similar location to newer 454 picture I found.

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Kinda wonder what that threaded boss is even for. Clutch linkage?
 
Not too sure that wasn't a factory tie down point for the dipstick

Maybe the fat block kids will come by and look
 
the hole you have it in now, mine has a NPT plug in it.

Why not move it to the drivers side?
 
the hole you have it in now, mine has a NPT plug in it.

Why not move it to the drivers side?
It is further forward on the driver side and the motor mount bracket partially obscures it. I'm thinking I might be able to clearance the bracket enough so it would fit but have concerns about weakening the bracket.
 
Here's what I'd have to cut out of the engine mount bracket for the the driver side port.

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Basically removes that dimpled spot on the bracket which I'm worried would weaken the bracket. Plus I'm not sure if the mount would hit it.
 
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