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'89 R3500 Crew Cab 2wd to 4wd conversion & beyond

Started out with 2wd TBI350 with SM465 to current 4wd with 454, 700r4, NP241
Do the shims you are using have a flat spot machined in them so the head sits flat?
I’ve had my diff cover bolts come lose a lot lately, I hit a them a lot on rocks. I’ve added torquing diff cover bolts to my list of things to do after every trail run.
 
as said flat machined in to the shim and some spacers to add the the pin and move the head down to compensate for the flat area . thats the real way to use them other than cut and weld the spring perches as the best .
 
There is a very slight depression and I did have them on the correct way.

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Maybe I need to consider going to grade 8 bolts like others have done. If the perches weren't cast, I would probably weld the shims to the perches.

I also did a little searching to confirm something I thought I had read before. I used a straight edge on mine to get the "datum line" like the image below shows. The shackle is 1° off perfect 90° in the A direction. So they should be fine where they are. The angle looks worse in the pictures because the rear eye is a little lower than the front eye.

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Did some snow bashing this weekend. The ride with the new springs was great. I can tell a difference in something as simple as a stop at a red light. Before the truck would bounce back and forth a couple of times, but now it just dips in the front and then settles back softly.

Without supervision from @doubletrouble Nate and I got good and stuck. So stuck in fact that I burnt up the motor in my 14 year old Tabor 12K winch. I was dug in like an Alabama tick.

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I've used that winch pretty hard over the years. It started out on my K5. I've blown out the tie bars, wore out a contactor, and now finally the motor.

Nate was ahead of me and we tried using his winch to pull me thru, but all we managed to do was pull his truck closer to me and break a strap (upon later inspection we figured out the strap was underrated). We ended up winching him thru the snow up above me to get him behind me. I had to trudge his winch line thru the snow for 3 resets to get it all the way thru around me.

Once Nate was behind me, we hooked up the kinetic rope. That thing is worth it's weight in gold for this type of recovery. We barely had enough slack to hook the rope up with Nate in a spot where he wasn't stuck himself. Just that little bit of slack was enough to get the truck started moving, and at this point I was so buried the wheels were just free spinning. And the kinetic rope did all of that without the had slamming jerk you get with a regular strap.

Thank goodness Nate's winch didn't fail and both truck were fully operational.
 
that tabor winch the one warn use to offer ? if so might get lucky and be able to use a newer motor . i know there is a lot of swapping guys do on the warn winches unlike the ramsey worm gear stuff .
 
that tabor winch the one warn use to offer ? if so might get lucky and be able to use a newer motor . i know there is a lot of swapping guys do on the warn winches unlike the ramsey worm gear stuff .
The Tabor is Warn's original China made winch. It looks like I may be able to pickup a replacement motor on eBay. Ideally I'd like to get a new winch and pickup a new motor for the Tabor and mount in the bed. Sunday was another example of how handy a rear winch would be.

It also got hot enough to distort the winch line near the motor side of the drum.

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I think I can keep this line and just cut a couple feet off to get rid of the bad section.
 
did you do a single line pull ? or a snatch block pulley for a double line back to you ? yes each pulley is slower in speed 50% but puts less work on the winch basically .

i vote a warn 8274 up front and rebuilt tabor in the frame rails on the back . i know the 8274 is big and bulky but there the std for big recovery jobs in the offroad . there is a reason guys mod these 2 the extreme . the drums hold around 125ft of 3/8 cable and dont even put the 5/16 on if you mod them as its the super weak link . there is wide and extra wide drum kits to hold MEGA lengths of line . otherwise there great stockish form .

but thats just me cause i have a few extra winches :rotfl: . . . but the more i dig in to these warn 8274 units there a ANIMAL stock and few bucks extra for bigger warn motor and there a HOT rod . they pull way over the 8k stock rating and still have the fastest line speed .
 
I have a Tabor on my TJ; still working.
I can't complain too much. This was a winch my dad gave me. It came on a truck he bought but he didn't want it. It's done some hard pulling in it's time. I did find a replacement motor but it's going to set me back $370.

did you do a single line pull ? or a snatch block pulley for a double line back to you ? yes each pulley is slower in speed 50% but puts less work on the winch basically .

i vote a warn 8274 up front and rebuilt tabor in the frame rails on the back . i know the 8274 is big and bulky but there the std for big recovery jobs in the offroad . there is a reason guys mod these 2 the extreme . the drums hold around 125ft of 3/8 cable and dont even put the 5/16 on if you mod them as its the super weak link . there is wide and extra wide drum kits to hold MEGA lengths of line . otherwise there great stockish form .

but thats just me cause i have a few extra winches :rotfl: . . . but the more i dig in to these warn 8274 units there a ANIMAL stock and few bucks extra for bigger warn motor and there a HOT rod . they pull way over the 8k stock rating and still have the fastest line speed .
It was single line pull. We were talking about a snatch block about the time the winch gave out. We were having some issue with the distance from anchor points; we had to use as many as 3 straps to reach a couple of times. Has me thinking more seriously about getting a true winch line extension.

I'm probably going to end up with a 12000lbs Warn EVO. For me it's the best balance of price and reliability. It's their current made in China line, but does have the lifetime mechanical/5yr electrical warranty.

Glad my supervision was missed. I was waiting for the come get us text. A rear mounted winch is nice to have.
I don't think I mentioned above that I had sent you a text. It was crazy the place we got stuck was the one place we had any kind of service; just enough to send a text. When @doubletrouble told me he wasn't sure he could come with us I told him if he couldn't then he had to be ready to come rescue us. So the first text I sent was "Standby" and his reply was "O sh!t". :haha:

If I got the winch I mentioned above, it would have the same contactor I put on the Tabor winch this past year. So that would give me a spare plus backup winchline too. And I know all these times I've wished I had a rear winch, I'll put one in the truck and never need it again.
 
I've been watching witching videos out of Australia and now I want all kinds of gear. They do lots of stuff with multiple snatch blocks and multiple anchor points and such. The guy I was watching explained line speeds and anchor loads and line loads all kinds of cool stuff. Showed how to pull your truck backwards with the winch running out the front in one video. Took 4 snatch blocks and a winch line extension and plenty of trees for anchors but it was cool.
 
I've been watching witching videos out of Australia and now I want all kinds of gear. They do lots of stuff with multiple snatch blocks and multiple anchor points and such. The guy I was watching explained line speeds and anchor loads and line loads all kinds of cool stuff. Showed how to pull your truck backwards with the winch running out the front in one video. Took 4 snatch blocks and a winch line extension and plenty of trees for anchors but it was cool.
I tried to use the front winch to pull the rear of the truck back onto the trail on our snowmaggedon run 6 years ago. I was so excited we had it all hooked up and I thought it was bound to succeed. But the sad ending to that story is that's how I broke my first synthetic winch line.

@Truckman4life is there any particular channel on youtube for those?
 
Extra 100 ft of 3/8" new winch line and a good crimp & loop on the other end . Thjs has gotten us a lot more in the towing world . And guy told me a old motor cycle tire to coil it up in and make it a easy to grab .
 
Extra 100 ft of 3/8" new winch line and a good crimp & loop on the other end . Thjs has gotten us a lot more in the towing world . And guy told me a old motor cycle tire to coil it up in and make it a easy to grab .
I have a good coil of steel winch line and I was wondering about how much load a cable clamp can hold. The only downside is the weight and a place to put it. Although I was thinking I might be able to come up with a way to nest the coil of steel cable in the wheel of the spare tire.
 
I've seen many a lineman use their splices for power lines and their crimper to fix a cable. They all run warn m12000 winches and their trucks are mostly 16-22k. They were always breaking cables since no one knew how to two part a line.
 
nice simple easy to learn video on cable loop ends . and same basic for line spliceing also if you have a way to cut the cable clean .


and the guy who plays with BIG cable all day long . . .

 
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I've been watching witching videos out of Australia and now I want all kinds of gear. They do lots of stuff with multiple snatch blocks and multiple anchor points and such. The guy I was watching explained line speeds and anchor loads and line loads all kinds of cool stuff. Showed how to pull your truck backwards with the winch running out the front in one video. Took 4 snatch blocks and a winch line extension and plenty of trees for anchors but it was cool.
I had to pull a 1 ton 4x4 wrecker forward and sideways once with only the rear winches. Poor trees had to hold up to 9200lbs in the mud. :doah:

Snatch blocks and extensions are great to have. Often had to make multiple leg anchor points using multiple trees.
 

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