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'89 R3500 Crew Cab 2wd to 4wd conversion & beyond

Started out with 2wd TBI350 with SM465 to current 4wd with 454, 700r4, NP241
People starting to pay money for gmt400 stuff these days. . Why trash it before you know the value .

And the dealer can cut a key for it if around 95-up i think . Had 1 cut for my old 96 years ago .
 
People starting to pay money for gmt400 stuff these days. . Why trash it before you know the value .

And the dealer can cut a key for it if around 95-up i think . Had 1 cut for my old 96 years ago .
Dealers usually want valid registration in your name to cut a key, unless you have an in.
And I wouldn't think twice about tearing a GMT400 apart to get what I wanted.
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And I wouldn't think twice about tearing a GMT400 apart to get what I wanted.
:grind:
Just because your dad had one when you were a kid doesn't mean they aren't garbage.
Maybe the engines...maybe. Rear springs if they are still good. Maybe a 4L80E or NV3500 or NV4500. Oh, the NV241 if they have the right output for you.
Past that? Phfffft. Junk axles, junk front suspension, crappy body, frame's no good for anything except them...bah. Junk.
 
It runs:


No fuel in the tank, it basically ran off want we poured down the air intake. We drilled out the key cylinder until we could finally turn it with a screw driver. However, it wouldn't start with the "key". We put it in the run position and jumped the terminals on the starter. The lever for the column shifter is busted off. If the indicator is to be believed, the column is in the neutral position. We could move the gear selector on the trans by hand and we tried it in park and neutral with no luck. I'm thinking its got a bad neutral safety switch. Don't know if that might have anything to do with why the column lever is gone.

I would like to be able to drive it to give the engine a good run test and see how the transmission feels. I was thinking I could use a remote starter trigger to bypass that issue. Then I need to figure out a way to shift it from the cab. Last step would be to pour a few gallons of gas in the tank. Kinda funny with gas prices what they are, I'm reluctant to dump the gas in the tank when it may not run anyway.

You may be able to deduce from the video, the catalytic converter was removed. Apparently thieves cut them out of all the cars parked on the lot for the auction. They were also drilling holes in fuel tanks to get gas out of them, so I need to see if this tank has any holes in it. A lot of the vehicles were also vandalized with all the glass being busted out. Nate bought a Honda he wants to try to turn into a commuter a luckily the glass was all intact, however they did still the wheels and tires off of it.

I'm on the fence about what I want to do with the truck. I had been thinking about getting a truck exactly like this one to build for my next trail rig, but not for another 3 or 4 years. If I want to "restore" it, I'll have to go thru the bonded title process which may or may not be a pain. I did go ahead and pay for a carfax report because I wanted to see the history and verify the mileage.

The company on the door is the first owner. October 2012 it passed emissions with 79,618 miles on the odometer. The registration I found in the glove box was 2013. It was sold at a Ritchie Brothers auction in 2018 to the only other owner, but with no reported mileage - it still had the tag from the auction on the floor boards. So I'm thinking the mileage is accurate. It was bought in 2018 and parked. Apparently near a corn field because the cab is full of corn husks.

My original intent was to pull the motor, refresh it, maybe hop it up a little, and put it in the crew cab. I've never done a full engine assembly myself, and I'm kinda thinking I might give it a shot with this engine. I could take my time with it since it's not a dire need.

I have a cam for the 454 in the truck now that I purchased thru @folkenheath. I haven't done the swap yet because if I'm honest I've been a little concerned about messing up the motor and being stuck not being able to drive the crew cab. Now I have a backup motor if I do mess it up.

The 4l80e in the '98 is 2wd and I'm debating about putting it in the C10 so it would have overdrive. Obviously it's a bit overkill for that truck, but I already own it and there's a good chance it's in good condition.
 
If you have a test relay (one with a manual switch on it) you should be able to pop it in to replace the starter relay in the under hood electrical center. Turn the ignition on at the column and flip the switch on the relay to kick the starter.

Those test relays are easy to get and handy as hell.
 
If you have a test relay (one with a manual switch on it) you should be able to pop it in to replace the starter relay in the under hood electrical center. Turn the ignition on at the column and flip the switch on the relay to kick the starter.

Those test relays are easy to get and handy as hell.
That's not very redneck... I use wire or needle nose pliers..
:pimp:

But not on important circuits..
 
Is your cam a roller cam? Because that L29 is a roller block.

Martin
He bought a hydraulic flat tappet cam for the old engine several months back, wasn't plans for a Gen VI BBC at the time.

Scott call me if you wish it was for the new one. I'll see if they will let us exchange it since its still new in the box. You would need different springs again for a roller cam, but could likely reuse the lifters if they are that low of mileage.
 
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He bought a hydraulic flat tappet cam for the old engine several months back, wasn't plans for a Gen VI BBC at the time.

Scott call me if you wish it was for the new one. I'll see if they will let us exchange it. You would need different springs again for a roller cam, but could likely reuse the lifters if they are that low of mileage.
I'm still leaning towards doing the cam swap I have now. I feel better knowing I have a backup motor. Down the road after I've paid off other purchases, I will likely hit you up for some rebuild stuff on the L29.

I kinda wish I didn't already have a new engine for the C10 in the works. I could just put the L29 & 4l80 into the C10 and have one heck of a fun driver.
 
Speaking of big blocks, I've been meaning to post this meme @Raggedy_Ann made for me.

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I would say any lifted 4x4 treats gas that way, the wind and rolling resistance don't care what engine you have. The engine differences are minor compared to the energy loss of wind and tire deflection/rolling. Unless its not running right and just dumping fuel in, that no bueno.
 
That is true. Towing our 5000 pound camper only drops the MPG by 1.
 
I've also found the wind resistance matters more than the weight, at least in the midwest where there are no mountains. If you add something tall and light that sticks way above the tow vehicle it brings the mileage down more than something heavy but low and aerodynamic.
 
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