CK5
Register an account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members.

Absolute Example of Auto Auction Price Inflation

Good fun reading the comments. A lot of people concerned about cut dash. I like that 90s tape player, that's more "period correct" then original if you ask me.
They call those 2nd day modifications. Things a original owner might do after he bought it. Things like aftermarket wheels and vavle covers fall into that category. Tape deck could be one. Its a whole thing in the muscle car world
 
This is something that I've been semi-seriously following for a while...I've never been all that attached to my K5, having only bought it as a trail truck project that was supposed to happen between a now ex-GF and myself. She's gone, I still have the K5, and occasionally throw a bit more money at it, though I'm now sure that after I built the 489ci BBC for it and bought a new Softopper, I'm probably well past the point of being able to sell it at anything even close to a break even point, lol Go ahead and call me nuts, but had I been solely driving the purchase decision, I would have started with a completely different platform.

I think what a lot of people miss is that these are also CLEAN trucks, or at least appear to be very clean, lol. I'm sure we've all seen vehicles with fresh paint jobs on the outside, with a chassis that obviously hasn't seen _any_ cleanup work in several decades, yet still go for some decent money...it's all in the image.

This also results in an awful lot of people thinking "1960-something C/K-whatever went for 50K at (insert random auction here), so my rusted out 1986 junk pile that I haven't even cleaned out 10 years worth of McDonald's wrappers and empty Marlboro boxes from HAS to be worth 25K! Don't lowball me, I know what I have!!!" Sadly, this only happens from the seller side, and never from the buyer side...I'd gladly sell my '86 K5 with a bit of rust in the floor pans for $15K, lol. I think we still have a long way to go before the 80's era trucks will be seeing this level of sales prices, which has been mimicked in the Fords too - EBs go for big money, even when they're just a rough rolling chassis, but the later Broncos on the full size chassis still aren't going for anything even remotely close in value..
 
Will be interesting to see how the EV policies will affect the values of all classic vehicles.
 
Will be interesting to see how the EV policies will affect the values of all classic vehicles.

This is something that's been on my mind as well, more so with things like the diesel laws that Commiefornia put into effect. My gut feeling is that we'll be seeing at least attempts at pushing through legislation that goes far beyond merely something mandating that all new car sales will be EV by 2035 or the like...my thinking is that we're going to see things like massive hikes in road gas taxes so that people will have more "incentive" to go electric, along with a return of the "cash for clunkers" type of programs, but much more widespread than what we saw during the previous rounds. Much like I've said for years about the concern that the government will one day take away the guns - they don't need to take away the guns for the end effect to be the same. They simply need to disrupt the supply of ammunition for the guns - no ammo, and your gun because a very expensive paper weight. Same with the cars - disrupt the supply of fuel or jack the cost sky high, and your gas vehicle suddenly becomes useless as well.

I don't think it's going to have a major effect in values of classic vehicles, as those vehicles typically don't see a lot of miles put on them anyways, but it's going to absolutely destroy the market, and more importantly, the supply of, the older vehicles. The average "car guy" won't be able to find the typical "driver" condition cars/trucks, and even if he/she could...they won't be able to afford to drive them much anyways.

And to add insult to injury, the overall cost of driving won't drop for most of us even after going to various forms of electric vehicles, as electric rates are going to jump to the point of it costing the same to drive that electric car as it does to drive a typical 20-30mpg gas/diesel car does today in order to pay for the cost of increasing electric generation.
 
And to add insult to injury, the overall cost of driving won't drop for most of us even after going to various forms of electric vehicles, as electric rates are going to jump to the point of it costing the same to drive that electric car as it does to drive a typical 20-30mpg gas/diesel car does today in order to pay for the cost of increasing electric generation.

It's already this way. The only financial sense that can be made of an electric car is if you're a courier, rideshare, or taxi cab driver.
 
It's already this way. The only financial sense that can be made of an electric car is if you're a courier, rideshare, or taxi cab driver.

Full disclosure - I've had an electric car before, and liked it...well, the concept, anyways. I wasn't especially fond of the car itself, though if it wasn't for the poor combination of "green" wiring and living in a rural area, I'd probably still have it. But the electric driving experience was pretty neat, I did enjoy it, and I wouldn't at all be opposed to it again in the future for a commuting car. For a while, it was cheaper than driving my truck, and makes a lot of sense for those that live in the city with relatively short driving trips. There was also zero concern of super short trips, and the associated engine wear of frequent restarts.

But it all hinged on my ability to buy a cheap electric car, cheap electric rates at home to charge it, and gas prices going up. My suspicion is that once we become saturated with electric cars, the price of electricity to charge those cars will sky rocket, as will the price of gas in order to convince us all that electric cars are the way to go...so that we're all going to get screwed, whether we go electric cars or not.

A few years ago, I traded in my then daily driver - 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 Hemi that I owned free and clear, on a 2013 Chevy Volt PHEV - 3 years old, 30K miles, $13K (yeah, the value on these cars dropped like the Hindenburg...). The car had a 35-50 mile range on battery alone, (depending on terrain, AC/heater usage, how aggressive one with regeneration, etc), and averaged 35mpg when running on engine alone.

My daily commute was then 40-50 miles one way, and my employer had just installed a bank of electric car chargers in the employee parking lot that were free to use. The power company also offered a plan for super low electric rates at night for people with electric cars to charge them on the cheap. Ended up being something like $0.03/Kwh. I don't recall the exact numbers now, but I had figured out that the cost of the loan payment, plus the increased insurance premium along with what it cost me on my electric bill to account for charging the car at night, more or less equaled out to the same amount that I was spending in gas every month to feed that Hemi. So I was spending that money regardless - either going to the oil companies, or going to the bank. But this all hinged on buying a car that cost $13K, and could run the majority of my commute on battery alone. I ran the numbers before, and once overall cost of ownership is accounted for, it would be FAR cheaper to keep feeding gas to a 12MPG truck that I own than a brand new $25K Prius that got 50mpg. It would have been almost 15 years before I hit the break even point, assuming no major repairs were needed on either. But I suspected that even replacing an engine or trans on the truck would be cheaper than replacing similar parts on a Prius.

But eventually I'd come out ahead - either the price of gas would go up, tilting the scales in my favor, or eventually I'd pay the car off, and save the cost of the loan payment, and again, tilt the operational costs in my favor. But then, my employer started charging for use of the charging station, and it ended up costing more than just paying for the gas that would run the car for the trip home. Shortly after, the power company discontinued the special rate plan with the super cheap overnight electricity.

Wasn't long before running that electric car ended up costing me more than what it cost to drive the "gas guzzler" truck. Final nail in the coffin was rodents getting up into the engine bay, and chewing on the wiring that connected to the main control harness. $1,000 damage, overnight while parked in my driveway. Turns out that a LOT of these "green" and "environmentally friendly" cars use wiring with a soy based insulation. Basically vegetable oil based, rather than petroleum based, and it attracts the rodents like the Pied Piper. Toyota has had multiple class action lawsuits lodged against them because of this stuff. That tilted the scales WAY back in the favor of the gas cars, and these days I'm driving a Suzuki Grand Vitara as my daily.
 
Last edited:

Latest Posts

Top Bottom