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Air cleaner lid anyone..?
- Thread starter rob h
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Stomis
Professional Amateur
The only way I could see one of those lids helping is if you have say a very tall intake manifold and like a 2in cowl hood and are running a thin open element to clear the hood.
I don't even care about the function in this case, they look ghey... 
coming from an oldschooler.... 
I'm gonna run a 14" x 6" element with this lid in my cowlhood airbox...
coming from an oldschooler.... I'm gonna run a 14" x 6" element with this lid in my cowlhood airbox...
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
you sure? more air never hurt any motor i have ever seen
your single factory inlet allows for the coldest possible air to enter the carb, adding another to the other side of the engine bay is going to allow for more air to flow into the carb which means a more efficent motor.
on any motor it would help due to the fact that your pushing your efficency up. it might not be a noticable difference but it sure is not gonna hurt anything.
upgrading to the smooth flowing tube style and getting rid of the old factory ribbed one would help a bunch.
and anyone is welcome to correct me if im wrong but moving the air filter down to core support is better in a performance setup than the stock setup. due to air that travels up the inlet tube slows down when it reaches the filter therefor heating up due to the motor temp. if you slow the airdown at the filter at the core support where the air is cooler, after passing thru the filter it then is not restricted when reaching the inake so it will not heat up as fast.
again will you notice a difference? maybe not, and maybe you will. Of course thats not the best setup for mud runners or water crossing due to putting your filters right where they can be covered.
With as short as the air intake tubes are, the heat build-up in the air going to the carb/TBI is so minimal, it's not going to affect anything. I also keep stating that the factory cold air intake is PLENTY large enough to handle the motors capable PULLING of air through the stock system.
A stock(ish) motor is only going to pull so much air in, sure having dual snorkles or a ton of intake tubing isn't going to hurt anything as long as it's cold air, but it's just not necessary.
Get a bigger motor, or some sort of supercharger, turbo, then yes, i can see where larger or more intake tubes can be needed.
I am also referring to, now that i think about it, the later model factory housings that have the larger 4-5" openings, as i remember seeing some real old ones with some really small horn openings on them, i could see those as being restrictive.
Yes, again, colder air is the best air, i have proven this to myself with experience by running one of those open air element filter setups, yeah it sounded cool when you got on the throttle, but the "get up & go" just wasn't there, and it was definately noticeable. Put the factory stuff back on and it was MUCH nicer.
all facts are over-ridden by the gheyness of the appearance.... 
but you cant see it with the hood closed.....lol
They probably fail to mention that if they actually close the hood then the power is the same as the normal lid!
I am telling you, I had a ~425 hp 383 and my ET was absolutely the same, no difference, although I did close the hood when I went down the track!
Ok you got me on that one.
Philly87
1/2 ton status
I'll take my lashings for this but I like the way they look and I'm very confident in my sexuality. 
-Phil
-Phil
They always reminded me of a sift. If you drove it anywhere bouncy and dusty (say offroad) I picture the dirt working its way through and it being pointless
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
i don't have a problem with the way they look, on the right setup or whatever, it's just a personal preference of using the stock, or even an aftermarket,,, doesn't matter, cold air intake system. As mentioned before, i have tried using an open air setup on the Burb in Phoenix, and i could honestly feel the difference in the way the engine performed, sounded cool and all, just didn't like the drag it seemed to create.I'll take my lashings for this but I like the way they look and I'm very confident in my sexuality.
-Phil
Now drag racers and whatnot, i dunno, maybe running them in the cooler evenings or cooler days doesn't make much difference, i tried using the open element during summer months in Phoenix, where it's normally 115 +/- degrees ambient temps, that added with underhood temps, really sucked i think.
I've always looked at it this way
how big are the intake holes (whatever they're called) in the manifold, or the carbs CFM?
how big is the smallest opening in your intake track
are they the same? If not, there might be room for improvement. You don't need larger or more intake tubes if it ends up larger then your carbs cfm.
that's considering you don't run an air cleaner to restrict any of the above mentioned holes.
imo
how big are the intake holes (whatever they're called) in the manifold, or the carbs CFM?
how big is the smallest opening in your intake track
are they the same? If not, there might be room for improvement. You don't need larger or more intake tubes if it ends up larger then your carbs cfm.
that's considering you don't run an air cleaner to restrict any of the above mentioned holes.
imo
heck, just look at 7,000 hp top fuel motor... those 4 butterfly's don't have THAT much surface area... Hilborn, dual quad openings are relatively small too...
