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If I was going to go to the expense of switching to a D60 front axle anyways, I'd be looking for a 95-99 Suburban 2500.

You can buy them cheap enough now-a-days. They came with 5.7L and 7.4L gas engines as well as a 6.5L diesel engine. You have the big advantage of a much more comfortable, quiet and modern vehicle to drive on a big long trip with all the same interior space as the old suburbans. Most of them are in far better condition than the older 80s / early 90s stuff is and are loaded with creature comforts like AC, heated seats, good heaters, solid sound systems etc.

The Vortec 5.7L engine will fetch you better fuel economy than the earlier TBI 5.7L engines do. The 4l80e is a solid transmission choice which will be found in either generation of Suburban. I have no complaints with the NP243 push button transfer cases but you can find these trucks with an NP241 floor shift transfer case as well if you are solid set against the electric version.

I'd cut the IFS out and install an ORD Solid Axle Swap kit with 47" long springs, a 36" perch width and a mid 80s Ford D60 front axle. You'd be into the swap for 2.5k or so all said and done. I wouldn't lift it more than 3" by using stock 3/4 ton 47" springs from a 73-87(91) truck. I'd also add a set of 4" rear lift springs and some air bags to the back to help keep it level when loaded down with gear. Finish it off with a set of quality 33" tires and some nice Bilstien or King remote resi shocks. I would not run mud tires, they are loud and wear poorly.

You should wind up with a truck that has all the toughness and capability of the old Chevy 1 ton straight axle trucks but topped with all the refinement of the newer rigs. The ride would be better in the new truck with 64" rear springs vs the 52" or 54" rear springs of the older generation of truck.

As far as the diesel engines go, as much as I love those engines they are not a great choice for a road trip like you are describing for a couple reasons.

The first being that there are not a lot of them on the road anymore. That means that parts, even new, can be difficult to track down if you do have problems on the road.

The second being that they are not compatible with ultra low sulfur diesel fuel and require additive. The sulphur used to act as a lubricating agent needed by the injection pump. Without an additive to restore that lubricity the injection pumps fail sooner than later.

The final issue as mentioned above is poor cold starting performance. Once you drop below 5F you pretty much have to plug the block heater in to ensure the truck starts reliably. If you were to run a 6.5L diesel I would suggest that a diesel fired coolant heater such as a Webasto or Espar would be mandatory auxillary equipment.

The 6.5L diesel engines make plenty of power for a light duty engine. They are just as quick as any TBI 5.7L gas engine. They get awesome mileage at 18mpg on the highway but the cost of diesel fuel in the Northern reaches of the continent will shock you. I am paying $5.00 a gallon here right now, and it is more expensive the further North you go. There is also the added expense of the extra maintenance requirements in fuel filters and diesel engine oil as well.

All these extra costs nullify the fuel mileage savings over a gas engine. Dropping a 6.6L LB7 Duramax into one of these newer body style trucks is not difficult and would eliminate a lot of the issues with the 6.5L diesel, but is a very expensive venture costing easily $7 - 10,000 to do it right with a good used engine.

I would tend to agree with the other folks that an Atlas transfer case would be better suited to your rock crawler vs your daily driver / adventure rig. That $2500 would be far better spent on a nice interior sleeping platform with storage space underneith, a roof rack with a cargo bullet for carrying light stuff like bedding / clothing and a awning to provide a dry / shaded place to sit outside of your vehicle. Bumpers with a winch up front, spare tire carrier out back would be a great idea and would also provide room for a second fuel tank to where the spare was to improve your vehicle's range.
 
think so. if I was going to go that route I would use my 09 f250. even with a long wheel base I took it into some areas I shouldn't have. it doesn't exactly turn on a dime. that's why I bought the Willy's. looking for something in between

Lived in Fairbanks and Anchorage for a long time. Driven the Alcan Half a dozen times or more in all seasons. Please allow me to make a suggestion.

Buy a 4x4 fourwheeler. Put in the back of that F250 and come on up for a visit. Done and done. You will thank me later. The amount of Money you will save will make your trip way more enjoyable. The fourwheeler will allow you to go anyplace in AK that you can get to via motorized ground. Faster, Cheaper, Easier to fix/extract....

If you are dead set on the Burb. 3/4 ton solid front axle and 40" tires at a minimum.

DEEP ass mud is the norm. Also don't get hung up on the body. It's gonna get beat to ****.
 
Pulled the trigger on a burb this weekend.
got a 91 V2500 and the start of what was going to be a rock crawler.
didn't really want the rock crawler but they went as a package deal.
guy needed to sell so he could pick up a 4 seat crawler. anyway price was right and I figure I will sell the stuff I don't use.

buggy has 14 bolt with 4.10 rear and front. don't know if the rear is a FF or SF. also it's sitting on 37's. supper swamper's seem to have a lot of tread left. those will go up on craig's list along with some racing buck seats and 5 point harnesses. other things that will go up are some shocks, hooker headers, aux fuel tank, and an aluminum mount for the engine to transmission. not sure what it is called but don't think I need it. going to cut the cage off and see if I can fab something up for the 48 willy's. also came with a 4l80e but that will need some work. will take that down to the tranny shop along with the one in the burb.

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Worse part so fare is the barn doors, rear bumper and the driver side door.
PO had already pulled the dash as he was going to use the running gear from the burb for the buggy. figure I will put a new one in. the old one is has two big cracks and the speaker area is all broke up. Front seats will be replaced with buckets. thinking about doing that with the rear as well but for now the kids can live with it as they are in good condition. floor mats will need replacing and new carpet in the back.

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noticed a few things on the carb when I was cleaning out all the pine needles. the driver side connection on the top seems to be broken, and the side of the housing looks to be damaged and missing something. (circled in red).

there also seems to be some extras wire's for a plow that was once there. still had the control unit in the cab. that will go as well.

so the tear down begins. going to pull the engine, trans, and Tcase this week while I wait for parts on the Willy's and get things all cleaned up to see what things are hiding. Time to get out the white board and start the list of stuff to do.

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Yes. I new it was TBI. but if you look close it appears the driver side seems to be broken. top clip. the side with the yellow and green wires. or is that the way it should be. nothing to compare it to.
 
Yes. I new it was TBI. but if you look close it appears the driver side seems to be broken. top clip. the side with the yellow and green wires. or is that the way it should be. nothing to compare it to.

I can't tell from the pictures. Sometimes what looks like a crack in aluminum can just be casting marks.
 
if you take a look at post 85 in the last pickture it looks like the top part of the attachemt is broken. On the other side there is a piece of plastic that spans across the two contact where as the other is open and you can see the top part of the Injector?
 
Those plastic fuel injector connectors break fairly commonly. You can buy new ones. Instead of calling it a "carb", refer to it as the throttle body.

Nice find on the '91 3/4 ton.

A semi floater has no hub sticking through the wheel. A full floater has a hub stick 3" or so out of the brake drum. On the end of the hub, is a flange, bolted on with 8 1/2" bolts (3/4" bolt heads).
 
A bit of an update here. Fell into a deal for a 90 custom build burb that was in better condition than the 91. So now I have two with the start of a rock buggy.
The 90 has 350 tbi and th400 trans, 14bsf and 10 front, 4:10 gears, dual shocks and auto hubs, 4 captain’s chairs and 3rd rear seat, rear air and power windows and rear defroster.

Parts on hand from the buggy,
14bff rear 4:10, 10 front manual hubs with 4 inch lift.
4l80e trans (needs rebuilt or cleaned up as it is showing a little rust)
Bilstein shocks (4)
Rancho shocks (8)
5 gal fuel cell
Oil cooler and remote oil filter
Electric air pump (I think)
4 super swamper 37x12.50R17LT tires and wheels.
Two mufflers ( not really sure of the brand as I have not looked real close)
Hooker headers for a 350 Chevy
Roll cage – going to chop this up and repurpose for the 48 willy’s

I was going to swap out the differentials on the 91 as they are geared 3:73 but was not really sure I would gain that much other than having a FF rear.
Now with the 90 geared the same it might make more sense to do that and change out the TH400 with the other 4l80e once I rebuild it.

Right now I am just cleaning thing out of each to make sure there isn’t any rust and to see what I have to work with.
90 runs but has a transmission leak and the tilt steering is why loose. Drives and stops but will have to check out the breaks.
91 tries to run. Have to feather the gas pedal to keep it going. One of the clips on the injector is broke. Have not traced the wires back to a connection or looked on how to replace it if it is causing injector problems.

So the question I have now is the 14bff rear worth doing the swap? As stated before this is going to be doing some medium off road and towing.
If not they will go on craigs list with the other parts that I don’t need.

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Full floater > semi floater.

What do you mean the 4L80E is starting to show rust???

Martin
 
this one is out of the burb and sitting on the shop floor. door to the barn was cracked open during the last snow storm and it got a little wet. just a little surface rust on the front and rear spline. the pan is also just laying on it as there are no bolts holding it together. have to get a few to get it attached till I can get it looked at.
 
82355 - you recommend swapping to the Full floater?
didn't understand your comment Full floater > semi floater.
 
82355 - you recommend swapping to the Full floater?
didn't understand your comment Full floater > semi floater.

strength wise, a full floater is stronger. Also, if you break an axle in a full floater it will not walk out of the housing.
 
A bit of an update here. Fell into a deal for a 90 custom build burb that was in better condition than the 91.

I was going to swap out the differentials on the 91 as they are geared 3:73 but was not really sure I would gain that much other than having a FF rear.
Now with the 90 geared the same it might make more sense to do that and change out the TH400 with the other 4l80e once I rebuild it.

Right now I am just cleaning thing out of each to make sure there isn’t any rust and to see what I have to work with.
90 runs but has a transmission leak and the tilt steering is why loose. Drives and stops but will have to check out the breaks.
91 tries to run. Have to feather the gas pedal to keep it going. One of the clips on the injector is broke. Have not traced the wires back to a connection or looked on how to replace it if it is causing injector problems.

So the question I have now is the 14bff rear worth doing the swap? As stated before this is going to be doing some medium off road and towing.
If not they will go on craigs list with the other parts that I don’t need.

Nice find, that looks better than the 91.

The tilt steering is fairly easy to fix if it is just the tilt part that is loose. You have to take of the steering wheel and disassemble the column down to the 4 bolts holding the tilt mechanism. Tighten them up and lock tite the bolts. I think somebody did a good write up about it...

The 14bsf is a good rear end, but the 14bff is definitely stronger. The swap isn't difficult if the spring perches are the same width. I would pop the diff covers on both axles before making any further decisions.

The 4l80e will be a sweet upgrade.
 

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