They are probably cool. I just have a hard time caring about Mustangs. Like electric cars.
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So you actually like the Pinto years then?
Did you guys see who/what won the Sick Week recently? It was a 28" radial Coyote car that won the whole event. Got to give him credit, pretty impressive...
Averaged 6.34 with a 6.26 best ET for the week, on a drag and drive 28" radial tire!
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All the tracks were Radial prepped, which hurt the big tire cars IMO. What can you do though? Also, the traction control being used by these radial guys is insane.
Cleetus has been down in the 6.20's with the El Camino, but i don't know if he would have been able to be as consistant as the Snot Rocket. Moot point as he trashed his trans on Day 1.
The mustang II's. Yeah. Ive seen some sweet ones.
Radial prepped basically means it's really sticky for the most part. Which means the big tires have more traction too, although the promod levels will frequently tune to get a small amount of tire spin, they should still be able to retune for that I would think, and/or a converter swap.
Many of the no prep racers on big slicks are using the traction control too, but that is only if things get out of hand, you should not be on the traction control all the way down the track or you will grenade your engine pretty quick with the timing fluctuating that quick for more than a moment.
I give them credit for what they did, to be that quick every track on that little of a tire is impressive, and would of been nearly impossible without a sticky track. I run that exact same tire, and the shock and suspension settings would have to be near perfect all around to run those numbers. Cleetus has been running the big 30"(315) pro radial when he can(sometimes they make him run the 28), this guy was only on the 28 (275) the whole week.
Many of the no prep racers on big slicks are using the traction control too, but that is only if things get out of hand, you should not be on the traction control all the way down the track or you will grenade your engine pretty quick with the timing fluctuating that quick for more than a moment.
I give them credit for what they did, to be that quick every track on that little of a tire is impressive, and would of been nearly impossible without a sticky track. I run that exact same tire, and the shock and suspension settings would have to be near perfect all around to run those numbers. Cleetus has been running the big 30"(315) pro radial when he can(sometimes they make him run the 28), this guy was only on the 28 (275) the whole week.
This Mustang dude is Cleetus' direct competition, running better numbers and more consistant with less power. He is the sole reason Cleetus just upgraded to a full floater and and clean sheet 4 link set up. Pete Harrel was Cleetus's partner at Sick Week and was doing all the suspension tuning stuff...until they tore up the TH400.
Jeff lutz was the one complaining about the radial prep...lol
Jeff lutz was the one complaining about the radial prep...lol
Those were the most terrible Mustang ever, didn't deserve the name IMO
You forget the, “total not the next Mustang”, Ford Probe.
I would think that green mustang is a lot lighter than Mullet. My G body weighs 3740 lbs with me in it. That's with a chrome moly 8.50 cert chassis, tubular a-arms, fabricated 9", fiberglass bumpers and hood, rack a pinion steering, etc. Still that weight hurts, if I had a lightweight chassis I would be in the 8s on pump gas NA with the same engine.
My biggest weight hit is the iron dart block and the 4L80E. An AL block could save me ~100 lbs but at a large cost. But it's still a factory full frame, those unibodies can be built light. The 4L80E, well, Its a true street car, and I like the lockup for racing too.
My point is, its hard to compete against light cars with Mullet being so heavy. Whats his fastest time? I don't know, I'll guess 6.30? I think he was at 3500 lbs. If I put that in my app and drop the weight to 2900 lbs, that's 5.92 at the same power level.
And Lutz still has the record for the fastest average time in a drag and drive event, he just had a bad week full of little sleep. No one has topped him in maybe 7 years?
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Mullet is Heavy, but getting lighter. With the Carbon front clip and doors and some judicious dietary work I think they got it under 3300...however they did have to [ut the steel front clip back on for Sick Week, so there is that.
Mullet is capable of probably a thousand hp more than the snot rocket, but rear suspension was already at it's limit for being able to put that power down and make it stick. Steve Morris says that SMX is good to 70 psi and they have yet to get anywhere near that so far. They only got a couple of hits on the new suspension and were already making decent gains.
Regarding Jeff Lutz, no disrespect from me at all. The guy knows how to go fast...I get his new car, i just don't like his new car. His '57 chev was the best, aero be damned!
Mullet is capable of probably a thousand hp more than the snot rocket, but rear suspension was already at it's limit for being able to put that power down and make it stick. Steve Morris says that SMX is good to 70 psi and they have yet to get anywhere near that so far. They only got a couple of hits on the new suspension and were already making decent gains.
Regarding Jeff Lutz, no disrespect from me at all. The guy knows how to go fast...I get his new car, i just don't like his new car. His '57 chev was the best, aero be damned!
Yeah, I get it, I agree with you.
I am just saying I feel for him on the weight penalty. Because I am in the same boat. When I rebuilt my entire car over 6 years ago now, it would of gotten 1st or 2nd in the Street NA class at Drag Week if I would of raced and completed it. Easier said than done, but considering I have been driving it and racing it for 6 years now with just fluid changes and lash checks I should of been fine.
However, now they got all these lightweight cars, and mustangs with Big Blocks in them running 8s on motor because they have up to 800 lbs weight advantage on me and a similar drivetrain.
Morris is in the same scenario, he has a huge station wagon that is absolutely awesome, but its so heavy it would be extremely hard to get it in the 5s. He also had to get a 12" MW rearend for it to not break it.
Weight also kills more parts, transmissions and rearends take a lot of abuse with a fast heavy car.
I wouldn't be surprised if eventually Mullet got a complete tube chassis and ditched the factory frame completely, it's what it would take to really compete with the lighter cars, and he has the resources. I noticed he put the frontend back on and didn't put the heavy doors back on.
I am just saying I feel for him on the weight penalty. Because I am in the same boat. When I rebuilt my entire car over 6 years ago now, it would of gotten 1st or 2nd in the Street NA class at Drag Week if I would of raced and completed it. Easier said than done, but considering I have been driving it and racing it for 6 years now with just fluid changes and lash checks I should of been fine.
However, now they got all these lightweight cars, and mustangs with Big Blocks in them running 8s on motor because they have up to 800 lbs weight advantage on me and a similar drivetrain.
Morris is in the same scenario, he has a huge station wagon that is absolutely awesome, but its so heavy it would be extremely hard to get it in the 5s. He also had to get a 12" MW rearend for it to not break it.
Weight also kills more parts, transmissions and rearends take a lot of abuse with a fast heavy car.
I wouldn't be surprised if eventually Mullet got a complete tube chassis and ditched the factory frame completely, it's what it would take to really compete with the lighter cars, and he has the resources. I noticed he put the frontend back on and didn't put the heavy doors back on.
Mullet’s carbon front clip lacks lights for the street portion so they put the stock clip back on. I think now that they put the four link in they only have the middle part of the stock frame left along the rockers.
Was the “real steel” category of sick week kind of a nod to allow the full steel cars a level ground to compete without the unibody cars? Still Morris and Cleeter are shooting for unlimited with the big engine packages but a guy like Lutz can smoke them in his promod if he could keep it together and hook up all week. Though that’s kind of what makes the accomplishment of the snot rocket so crazy that he was running with Lutz all week.
This dude,
1. knows his truck
2. Should really spend some time squaring his rear axle. (Clearly see he's dog tracked before he even moves and at the end of the track)
3. Has balls of steel to get enough passes in that thing to learn how to drive it like that lol.
1. knows his truck
2. Should really spend some time squaring his rear axle. (Clearly see he's dog tracked before he even moves and at the end of the track)
3. Has balls of steel to get enough passes in that thing to learn how to drive it like that lol.
That guy is going to hurt himself or someone next to him on the track...there is a fine line between courage and ignorance that seems to have been crossed.
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Wouldn't pass tech at our local track.
Steve crashed the wagon recently. Trans line came apart, got oil under the tires and hit the wall...then had a nice little fire in case he wasn't excited enough at that point. Fixable...but damn!
That was why he and his wife were racing "Sugar Momma", his wife's car at Sick Week.
Yes I saw that, he couldn't see with the oil/smoke, also saw his video of the carnage after, I watch his stuff more often than anything else, I like the tech that he teaches, ultra high end engine stuff.
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