any front 3 link /panhard pics?

[moneypit_K5]

what exactly does my front axle size have to do with breaking transfer cases?

I have had that thing airborne quite a few times, its a mud truck, i am not easy on it, I don't break much in that front end. I keep spare shafts/hubs/spindles/bearings in the truck, I don't mind getting dirty to replace them on the trail if it means saving 1500 bucks on a D60. That is a monumental waste of money in my application.

For 1100, I was able to buy a deuce 1/2 matched set. they will be going under when the mud dries up this next summer. until then,

I was simply looking for some ideas on how to keep my it together for this winter wheeling season, not really interested in hearing all about how I shouldnt run 44's with a 10 bolt. Obviously it is a subpar axle. It works fine till the rock swap, and it in no way plays into my problem.

Im not new to this. Im just looking to bounce some ideas off of some other truck builders on how to set up some sort of ladder bar to keep that axle from breaking my Tcases.

 

[Stomis]

what exactly does my front axle size have to do with breaking transfer cases?

I have had that thing airborne quite a few times, its a mud truck, i am not easy on it, I don't break much in that front end. I keep spare shafts/hubs/spindles/bearings in the truck, I don't mind getting dirty to replace them on the trail if it means saving 1500 bucks on a D60. That is a monumental waste of money in my application.

For 1100, I was able to buy a deuce 1/2 matched set. they will be going under when the mud dries up this next summer. until then,

I was simply looking for some ideas on how to keep my it together for this winter wheeling season, not really interested in hearing all about how I shouldnt run 44's with a 10 bolt. Obviously it is a subpar axle. It works fine till the rock swap, and it in no way plays into my problem.

Im not new to this. Im just looking to bounce some ideas off of some other truck builders on how to set up some sort of ladder bar to keep that axle from breaking my Tcases.

My money is on the springs. There has to be something wrong with them that your axle is shifting that bad. As said you do need more slip from that front shaft but that aside I still think theres something wrong with your front suspension. Just throwing a panhard or trac bar on it is just a bandaid until whatever is causing your front axle to shift actually breaks.

You could wind up with a nose full of dirt and I wouldnt wanna see that happen to ya. Check all your bushings and makesure none of the rivets that hold the spring and shackle hangars in have come loose.

If you dont find anything there I think you need to pull those front springs out and take them apart. Center pins are cheap. Atleast if you dont find anything you have piece of mind it isnt your springs them. I'm a little surprised 10in lift springs flex so well as are others. It sounds like there could possibly be wrong with a leaf or multiple leafs in them. Dont brush it off just because I critiqued the 10bolt and 44s thing. I was driving around with a cracked main spring in the back of my truck and never knew it til I took the ubolt off.

 

[moneypit_K5]

I'll look at them closely, thanks for the help, I understand what your saying.

 

[Stomis]

I'll look at them closely, thanks for the help, I understand what your saying.

Yeah man something just doesnt add up. If for some reason those springs are that soft I would look into getting a stiffer set. Theres a point at which soft and flexy brings in too much wheel hop and undriveability. As said though what you would need is a trac bar. Theres no reason to have a 3link setup.

A panhard bar is to prevent side to side movement of the axle. With leafs there really shouldnt all that much.

A 3 link completely locates the axle which because of the fact that leafs on there own locate the axle is unnecessary. Now if you have the where withall to fab up a 3 link with coils, by all means GO for it! And take pictures and write up a build too!

A trac bar plans the axle down and forward (for a front axle) when it makes an attempt to hop. If your keeping leafs you want one of these. Its basically a triangle with the flat side mounted at the axle. The point comes up to a frame mount with a shackle on it.

 

[bftank]

agreeing with stormis about double checking your springs. springs on there own can be that soft, and when they are that soft w/o broken leaves they can stat doing wierd things like affecting steering through axlewrap if no crossover and axle hop. not knowing what your driveshaft specs are i'm going to agree with the other fellas that you probably need a longer one or if you have plenty of slip looking into a cv for the tcase side. it sounds like your yokes are breaking due to being bound up. stretching your drivetrain w/doubler or something similar could be very beneficial to this binging problem. divorced would sove it as well.

just curious howmany leaves? how thick are leaves? and what is measurement spring eye to eye? sounds like a wicked setup!

 

[bftank]

also when axlewrap occcurs in front spring it will store and release that tension to the drive shaft. which if shaft is already at steep angle means bad mojo. something to think about.

 

[Hogback Fabrication]

Theres no reason to have a 3link setup.

A panhard bar is to prevent side to side movement of the axle. With leafs there really shouldnt all that much.

A 3 link completely locates the axle which because of the fact that leafs on there own locate the axle is unnecessary. Now if you have the where withall to fab up a 3 link with coils, by all means GO for it! And take pictures and write up a build too!

There is SO much more to link suspensions than simply locating axles, I would (and will) trade my front leaf sprung suspension for links in the near future. If setup correctly, links >> leaves.



As to the driveshafts problems, we've said it before but the problem arises from a shaft that's too short or doesn't have enough travel.

 

[Stomis]

There is SO much more to link suspensions than simply locating axles, I would (and will) trade my front leaf sprung suspension for links in the near future. If setup correctly, links >> leaves.



As to the driveshafts problems, we've said it before but the problem arises from a shaft that's too short or doesn't have enough travel.

Come on now I know that. And I am also no master at linked suspension. I'm just giving him the short story.