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Battery Lug Crimpers - What style is best? Ryoken?

Soldering is easy, just make sure you use soldering paste/flux which makes the wire absorb the solder much easier.
 
Soldering is easy, just make sure you use soldering paste/flux which makes the wire absorb the solder much easier.

X2. And, put the heat where you want the solder to go, and it'll suck in. Don't try to melt the solder directly. Heat the parts, wire, tube, etc.
 
X2. And, put the heat where you want the solder to go, and it'll suck in. Don't try to melt the solder directly. Heat the parts, wire, tube, etc.

I pretty much have just failed at having the right flux, solder, tools, etc. :doah:
 
The next time you're in Fremont give me a call and i'll show you how easy it is to solder. :deal:

I use a Weller Professional 260/200 watt gun and have been very happy with it. You can buy a "kit" for about $45.00. Here is a link to one...http://www.amazon.com/Weller-D550PK-120-volt-Professional-Soldering/dp/B00002N7S1 This is the same kit i have.

Thanks for the offer man, i may take you up on that. I've actually taken electronics classes with soldering in the past, but i was about 12:haha:.

When I step up and get the right tool, i'll give you a call if i don't pick it up quickly again. I think i'd be ok with the right gun, flux, and making sure i heat the piece, not the solder. K.I.S.S., right? :D
 
I'm sure you'll "remember" quickly, just keep in mind that FLUX is your friend and also to use the proper solder for the job at hand (electrical or plumbing).
 
I'm sure you'll "remember" quickly, just keep in mind that FLUX is your friend and also to use the proper solder for the job at hand (electrical or plumbing).

yep. Copper pipe soldering came pretty easy once i figured out the flux routine. Pretty cool when it basically just sucks the solder down into the joint :bow:
 
one note to point out....

tho my truck is done exactly how Scott stated, soldered, I am not allowed to do that on boats, it's illegal... coast guard says they want a "mechanical" connection, meaning crimp... the theory is with high draw starters on the big diesels, the lug can heat up and loosen the solder/connection...


So, now i'm out of college, have a little bit of money, and am working on 2/0 boat cables.

What style crimper do you prefer Paul?

About to buy this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/8-TON-HYDRAULIC...lectrical_Equipment_Tools&hash=item415836ef6c

This is "mission critical" boat battery/engine wiring, on a friends boat, so i want to make sure and do it right.
 
hmm, those are interesting.. hydro, like the mastercraft flaring tool... we use big jaw compound crimpers with rotatable dies for different sizes.... does a hex crush gig...

I'll dig ya up a good link to the ones I use tonight...
 
I recently bought this one due to being in a hurry.
http://www.harborfreight.com/hydraulic-wire-crimping-tool-66150.html
I am very surprised by the quality. Works a lot better than a lot of other crimpers I've used and it has enough mechanical advantage to crimp with just one hand. I'm no electrician, but I think the dies may be labeled a size small. The 00 die seems a little small, but I buy the really thick lead lugs from the welding shop and I don't really know what I'm doing either. My crimps hold plenty strong enough though so I guess it's doing it's job either way.

Kinda heavy though, I probably wouldn't want to carry it in a toolbox every day.

It's also great for crimping ferrules on wire. Made a buddy some longer e brake cables and have made a bunch of snare-like devices that I don't use on the squirrels digging holes under my house :whistle:

Edit: lol that is the same exact one that harbor freight is selling.
 
one note to point out....

tho my truck is done exactly how Scott stated, soldered, I am not allowed to do that on boats, it's illegal... coast guard says they want a "mechanical" connection, meaning crimp... the theory is with high draw starters on the big diesels, the lug can heat up and loosen the solder/connection...

Same thing on airplanes. I can't think of any wire larger than 18 ga that is soldered, and even that is rare. I probably solder something once every couple months- and I rewire things daily. I doubt anyone would want to pay the price that our crimpers cost, though. Any of the large ones are air or hyd.

One thing you might want to consider for small wires are "environmental splices". Raychem makes them (& the crimpers). Basicly it is a ferule and a piece of rigid heat shrink. They work great, are sealed (hence the "environmental" name), and the heat shrink provides some strain relief. I'll get some pics later.

One last thought, if you want to solder & crimp, crimp 1st- then solder. Unless you are doing it to prevent corrosion. In that case, "tin" the wire- heat the wire & apply solder to it. Then crimp it. That will help prevent the bare copper from corroding. Better yet use plated wire:D
 
hmm, those are interesting.. hydro, like the mastercraft flaring tool... we use big jaw compound crimpers with rotatable dies for different sizes.... does a hex crush gig...

I'll dig ya up a good link to the ones I use tonight...


Cool. Standing by....
 
well, i just looked em up...

you don't want ours, thank god it's always been a shop tool.. freaking things run about $850! :eek1: saw em used on Eghey for 500...

Tyco Rota Crimp tool.... #600850




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they do 8 gauge to 4/0



http://www.aviationlogs.com/PilotShop/proddetail.asp?prod=600850
 
Better yet use plated wire:D


that's one thing I love about the boat biz, EVERYTHING is tinned..


the only thing I solder is electronic stuff, like when I need to do multi-pin radar connections.... or antenna connections...
 
Got it. So that style works well. Too bad HF doesn't have theirs anymore.

Guess i'm ordering a hydraulic style off ebay.

Thanks guys.
 
http://www.tecratools.com/product1254.html

these more :doah:

and when my dad use to build fire trucks back in the 70's . there was a pot of molten solder in the wiring station. strip wire / crimp with same crimpers i posted / dunk in molten solder pot / cool off / tape over with 3m tape.

guys tryed to rip out a lug from a 2/0 cable done to spec 1 time. 20ft of 2/0 and vise bolted to bench bolted to floor. 10 guys couldnt even budge that wire from the crimped end.

i have a few sticks of the solder left from there. its rochester lead works on them.
 
that's one thing I love about the boat biz, EVERYTHING is tinned..


the only thing I solder is electronic stuff, like when I need to do multi-pin radar connections.... or antenna connections...

Same with airplanes. Sounds like a lot of the same stuff.
 

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