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almost 40 or so years old and still going. there older than me.
ive used these before, they work pretty slick. alot of money though.
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Battery Lug Crimpers - What style is best? Ryoken?
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ive used these before, they work pretty slick. alot of money though.
Really? I've not heard that about boats before. I've soldered all of the battery cables in my boat when I move the batteriers from port to starboard.
Do you think there would be that much draw to melt the solder?
I went ahead and order that hydro crimper. I do not want to take any chances when it comes to my boat.
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well, it is coast guard spec... gas motor... I just don't see it being an issue, they just don't draw enough... big diesel? it's feasable..... I've seen some BIG draws on some of the diesels... but I have no clue what the solder melt temp/ heat created from draw, numbers would be..
if your soldering all your small connections, I would suggest stopping and going to a QUALITY adhesive lined, shrink marine crimp... ANCOR makes some decent ones...
with the amount of component failures/maintanence/ etc you get on boats, bilge pumps, etc, it's stupid... shrink tube or not, a solder joint is also WAY more susceptible to corrosion than a crimp.. which is why I don't solder on the boats, not because I'm worried about nuking the joint...
also, I'll solder on occasion in HIGHLY protected environments, I'm talking bridge of a 60'er, etc, usually radar, electronics related.. but VERY VERY rarely.... anything remotely exposed, not smart... dash work on a 20'er? not a chance in hell I'll be doing ANY solder work under there... anywhere in the boat for that matter, other than maybe the VHF antenna....
if your soldering all your small connections, I would suggest stopping and going to a QUALITY adhesive lined, shrink marine crimp... ANCOR makes some decent ones...
with the amount of component failures/maintanence/ etc you get on boats, bilge pumps, etc, it's stupid... shrink tube or not, a solder joint is also WAY more susceptible to corrosion than a crimp.. which is why I don't solder on the boats, not because I'm worried about nuking the joint...
also, I'll solder on occasion in HIGHLY protected environments, I'm talking bridge of a 60'er, etc, usually radar, electronics related.. but VERY VERY rarely.... anything remotely exposed, not smart... dash work on a 20'er? not a chance in hell I'll be doing ANY solder work under there... anywhere in the boat for that matter, other than maybe the VHF antenna....
oh, and while I'm here.... 
please make sure your bilge pumps are THE only circuit wired to the "always hot" side of your battery switches... COMMON mistake and I've seen it sink more boats than Neptune...
please make sure your bilge pumps are THE only circuit wired to the "always hot" side of your battery switches... COMMON mistake and I've seen it sink more boats than Neptune...
All my connections are crimped and soldered both. I always thought the wires need both. I look at the crimp as the mechanical connection and the solder as the electrical connection.
Battery cables I use a oval shaped punch and a v block. Then a 1/8" hole or so is drilled in the top of the end and filled with solder.
I used to wire up rescue trucks for a living. Everything on a rescue truck must be soldered.
Battery cables I use a oval shaped punch and a v block. Then a 1/8" hole or so is drilled in the top of the end and filled with solder.
I used to wire up rescue trucks for a living. Everything on a rescue truck must be soldered.
well, he asked about boats...
I'm not gonna open a solder vs crimp debate... solder guys get all defensive..
plenty of high end industries solder and plenty crimp only.. marine industry it's crimp only.. they both have there plus's and minus's.. solder creates stress risers in a connection, a cold weld, or crimp, does not add any resistance, etc, etc, etc... really it depends on the application as to what's best..
the biggest issue with anything crimped is incorrect connectors and the PROPER tool for them...
these are the ones I use for standard yellow, blue, red connectors
ancor's double crimp..... not some cheesy ones...
I'm not gonna open a solder vs crimp debate... solder guys get all defensive..
plenty of high end industries solder and plenty crimp only.. marine industry it's crimp only.. they both have there plus's and minus's.. solder creates stress risers in a connection, a cold weld, or crimp, does not add any resistance, etc, etc, etc... really it depends on the application as to what's best..
the biggest issue with anything crimped is incorrect connectors and the PROPER tool for them...
these are the ones I use for standard yellow, blue, red connectors
ancor's double crimp..... not some cheesy ones...
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what kind of crimp shape do you prefer the best if used correctly ?
the ones like you showed or the older vary comon half moon with the pin in the middle of the other half like thay have made for years ?
the ones like you showed or the older vary comon half moon with the pin in the middle of the other half like thay have made for years ?
strength-wise, tug-o-war, I'd say both jaw styles are about the same... the problem, depending on whether the apps calls for you to "give a sh*t", the 1/2 moon style T&B's and such have a tendency to puncture the shrink on premade connectors..
IMO, for larger stuff, you can't beat the compound crimp of hex dies in the earlier posted T&B's and Amp compounds... far superior to a 1/2 moon/chisel shape ime..
IMO, for larger stuff, you can't beat the compound crimp of hex dies in the earlier posted T&B's and Amp compounds... far superior to a 1/2 moon/chisel shape ime..
i have a set of propor ratchet crimps for premade heat shrink conectors. so thats covered
but when std ends are used i have old school t&b crimpers.
but was thinking of upgrade to better as i have a set of msd crimpers for plug wires and can get the pop in jaws in the style like you posted in the pic for the crimp shape. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-3507/
i have this now http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-35051/
figured 25 bucks for pair of jaws for better = good in the end.
just not sure. ???
but when std ends are used i have old school t&b crimpers.
but was thinking of upgrade to better as i have a set of msd crimpers for plug wires and can get the pop in jaws in the style like you posted in the pic for the crimp shape. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-3507/
i have this now http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-35051/
figured 25 bucks for pair of jaws for better = good in the end.
just not sure. ???
here's a link to the ones i have..
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=13291&BASE
not cheap, but a necessity in my line of work... actually that sale price is a fair amount cheaper than i paid...
http://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=13291&BASE
not cheap, but a necessity in my line of work... actually that sale price is a fair amount cheaper than i paid...
i have a set of propor ratchet crimps for premade heat shrink conectors. so thats covered
but when std ends are used i have old school t&b crimpers.
but was thinking of upgrade to better as i have a set of msd crimpers for plug wires and can get the pop in jaws in the style like you posted in the pic for the crimp shape. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-3507/
i have this now http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-35051/
figured 25 bucks for pair of jaws for better = good in the end.
just not sure. ???
I've seen that msd crimper before, but haven't used em.. I would think the jaw set would be a worthy buy...
I have the MSD crimper. Those work okay if you just do wiring occasionally. Changing the jaws become a pain after a while when you start to do more wiring. Plus it is a repackaged set of crimpers. You can find a similar set probably for cheaper.
Nah, wasn't wanting to start a debate. Just throwing out what we did with the rescue trucks and such. What I'm used to.
Lately I've been getting into the weather pack stuff more and more. That is strictly a crimp set up. Sometimes I really enjoy the soldering end of it. Sometimes I'd rather just crimp it and move on.
Definitely nothing for me to get defensive about. I do believe I have had better long term success with the crimp-solder-shrink method than anything else so far. Haven't had time to fully evaluate the weather pack stuff.
I wanna get the better weatherpack crimpers than I have.. I don't use em a ton at work... but my harness, I want the good ones..
I also at some point want the bigger one that does the 10 and 12 gauge metri-packs.... cuz I've definitely engineered at least 3 in my build...
I also at some point want the bigger one that does the 10 and 12 gauge metri-packs.... cuz I've definitely engineered at least 3 in my build...
