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Camaro my Brother gave me
- Thread starter cybrfire
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Four wheel drive guy gets curious, builds camaro, runs 4s, wonders, “what was the big deal?”
That’s what I think of when I see this build.
David
That’s what I think of when I see this build.
David
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It all looks really sweet Kert! Are you setting the engine back at all or stock location? I was thinking it would be back further with the awesome chassis you are building. 
You are definitely bracing it up solid, even came back from the dash bar!
I see the beginning of some custom headers too, nice...
You are definitely bracing it up solid, even came back from the dash bar!
I see the beginning of some custom headers too, nice...
beags86
Eastbound and Down
It all looks really sweet Kert! Are you setting the engine back at all or stock location? I was thinking it would be back further with the awesome chassis you are building.
You are definitely bracing it up solid, even came back from the dash bar!
I see the beginning of some custom headers too, nice...
I agree Heath, all that work and a clean slate, no reason not to push it under the cowl a little.
Actually their is a fine line on how much engine set back will work in your favor.
To much and you end up doing hard wheelies on to the bars and the tires start to unload.
Its all about weight transfer!
Another way to play with the weight transfer is to raise the engine higher in the chassis.
Only other thing and hard to tell from the photos is the nose has a 5" stretch.
To much and you end up doing hard wheelies on to the bars and the tires start to unload.
Its all about weight transfer!
Another way to play with the weight transfer is to raise the engine higher in the chassis.
Only other thing and hard to tell from the photos is the nose has a 5" stretch.
Common Kert, your building a rigid, modern, low slung chassis, don't be using reasoning from the 60s to place your engine. 
Moving your engine up won't help with the initial hit, moving it back will.
Especially with iron heads, you're most likely better off moving it back some. Modern cars like you are building are very low (less wheelie and more aerodynamic), and use the 4 link tuning and good shocks to get the traction and weight transfer, not height. Weight transfer only works if the initial hit hooks...you can control the wheelie and the launch with the shocks, 4 link, and front travel limiters. (and wheelie bar if you run one)
Look at Lutz's car, he has way more power than we do and his engine is way under the cowl. He has a fuel tank and dry sump stuff up front, but no radiator or fans to deal with. I think unless you are racing in a class where you need the stock firewall (which you obviously don't), you are better off moving it back some.
Of course I say that and I didn't move mine back, but I have the stock firewall and might race it in some radial classes.
Moving your engine up won't help with the initial hit, moving it back will. Especially with iron heads, you're most likely better off moving it back some. Modern cars like you are building are very low (less wheelie and more aerodynamic), and use the 4 link tuning and good shocks to get the traction and weight transfer, not height. Weight transfer only works if the initial hit hooks...you can control the wheelie and the launch with the shocks, 4 link, and front travel limiters. (and wheelie bar if you run one)
Look at Lutz's car, he has way more power than we do and his engine is way under the cowl. He has a fuel tank and dry sump stuff up front, but no radiator or fans to deal with. I think unless you are racing in a class where you need the stock firewall (which you obviously don't), you are better off moving it back some.
Of course I say that and I didn't move mine back, but I have the stock firewall and might race it in some radial classes.
folkenheath, have you ever run some numbers regarding moving an engine back and how much it changes weight bias and so on?
There used to be a saying, taking your battery out of the front and putting it in the back is like moving your engine back 2". Its actually pretty close.
This will have alumjnum heads eventually.
There used to be a saying, taking your battery out of the front and putting it in the back is like moving your engine back 2". Its actually pretty close.
This will have alumjnum heads eventually.
