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Detroit Diesel in Pickup?

atho said:
I was browsing Cat's website last night, and found the 3054 (I think thats the model). Inline 4, turbo, weighs 627 lbs, 122 hp/317 tq. Sounds like good competition for the 4bt, but I think they only came in backhoes and gensets, so might be a little harder to find one.
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The 3054 is a Perkins. Caterpillar at one point bought out Perkins (just like everyone else in the market) and may still own them, not sure. But I have overhauled a 3054 Cat. It is with out a doubt a Perkins engine, castings still said Perkins on the on I did.

A feller up here who also, conveniently, works for the Caterpillar dealer here, Finning. built a tubebuggy and stuck a bombed out 3114, out of a machine into it. With rockwells and 48" firestones, hills still quivered when they heard the turbo approaching.

As much as I hate to say it, I'd stick a 3208T into a pickup for cool factor. The 250hp turboed edition is rated at just shy of 800ft-lbs, in stock trim. AS much as the 3208 is a boat anchor. I'd do that over a triple nickel cummins in a heartbeat. Those are an abomination of a deisel engine.
 
HerculesEngine said:
I figure I'd see someone who said I might be dissapointed with a 353 :p: . For starters I plan on using a turbo off a 6V53 twin turbo, and larger injectors.
while a cast iron 353 weighs a hair more than a big block. Personally, I am looking to build a daily driver, and the 353 that I plan on building up would be best suited. I know of a couple 3.4L A's (from Grumman vans.) Even a V6 cummins out of some construction vehicles would be a neat build :laugh:. As for the Internationals, they arent terrible in my opinion, although you go to the dealer for parts and the money you spend would make a grown man cry. DT466 is out of the question... fuel mileage sucks, but they do last a good long time.
I guess I have more research to do- If I get really ambitious and loose my sanity some more I might do up a 5.7L Olds:haha: Anyone have some more pictures of the stuff they built? I thought that 6V53 in that 3500 looked cool along with the 353 in that 1/2 ton pickup. Thanks for the replies, and any more feedback or input is appreciated.
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It sounds like you already made up your mind before you even started this thread.

forget trying to get anything that weighs more than 1,200lbs, meaning an 8L and larger. To big, too tall, and way too heavy.

Not a big fan of the B Cummins,
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I can't even begin to contemplate why. Rock solid bullet proof motor that has 10 times more aftermarket support than ALL of the other engines mentioned put together. More power per litre capable than any other engine, along with still being a long lasting reliable engine at very high power levels.
 
The 60 series still has ceramic rollers, and actually, have yet to see a failure on the newer guys. They are at DDEC 5 now and they changed the injector cups to a style different than the old copper cups.
2007 brings us, from what I hear, dual turbos like an ACERT CAT and something called the "afterburner:. It's a catalytic converter that has two sensors, one inlet the other outlet for pressure. When pressure gets to a certain point it IGNITES A FUEL SOURCE IN THE THING and BURNS the junk out of it.....anyone else think that SOUNDS like a bad idea?? So...be prepared for $5,000+ muffler/converters.
 
Im glad they got the ceramic roller thing figured out. Too many times an owner/operator would come in with a skip and I would pull the valve cover and see a chewed cam from a busted roller. Hated to tell them what it was going to cost to make it right.

Sorry about the hijack Herc. Why don't you like the B series?
 
Hi all, have been too busy to check up on this thread- guess I'm ressurecting it.

As for the B series I should have been more specific. I do NOT think much of the Dodge pump that was put in the 94 and up series truck. I should have been more specific. As for the earlier rotaries I am semi- fond of them, more so of the "commercial" inline pumps found in busses etc. So I guess the normal old B series we see in Industry everyday- I don't mind them, other than being a throw away motor, but the 3208 was all of that. I have actually considered swapping a B59 out of a wrecked L9000, but the guy wanted a pretty penny for it (the Allison on the back didn't help much haha). Guess I'm a big fan of doing stuff that people dont normally do, such as putting a weird commercial engine in a pickup :) . Although I'd consider the Cummins, if I found the one I wanted.

Ended up looking at a Brazillian inline motor made for Ford, had a horrible wrap in it and the turbo had seen better days. The price wasn't much to boast about either.

Personally, I'd love to do a swap that most people have not done before. As long as I can find a bellhousing I think I'm game. I've heard of certain swaps involving the IH engines such as the 282 out of certain tractors... M& W turbo... a truck that sounds like a fartin Superstock :) .

I guess my search continues for a motor....

BTW Sry about the poor communication. Thanks for all your replies!!
 
One problem you will have with a two stroke detroit, is that they will govern out at about 2000 rpm. You will need some kind of overdrive to get the truck to run more than 35 mph. Short of running a extremely high gears set. The other thing is with a two stroke, your drive way will never rust.
 
I found a couple pics of someone who shoehorned this 6V92 into a Sub, so I thought I'd bring back this thread.

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Robert79K5 said:
I would think that in a one ton truck you would be sevearly dissapointed with a 353. Thats only 159 cubic inches. Im sure it makes enough torque to get the truck rolling but I wouldnt think it would haul anything worth a flip, or get out of its own way for that matter, but iv been wrong before.

I used to work for Williams Detroit Allison here in Atlanta. I was a four cycle guy, so mainly all I did was rebuild/troubleshoot/fix series 60 and 50 Detroits. The series 50 is just a series 60 with two cylinders lopped off. Its a great engine and as far as the wiring part goes it would be really easy to adapt to just about anything. I promise while either one would be a whoop-ass engine to have in a truck its way too big to consider (I know how you guys think) even for a one ton truck.

Now what Im thinking would be a cool project is to get a series 50 and a 2.5 ton truck frame and mount a light duty truck body on it. Now that would be a serious tow rig.

I love threads like this. Get the gears in my head turning.
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I have access to a number of 2.5 ton trucks and wondered if you could mount a pickup body to that frame. My thoughts are to use the 2.5 ton front cap b/c of the wider front axle, mount a crew cab body (if it would match up to the front cap), and a bed from a long bed dually. You could make that a really nice tow rig. Only problem is that those things are geared so low that they just scream at highway speed. Would be very loud and tiring on a long trip.
 
tiger9297 said:
I have access to a number of 2.5 ton trucks and wondered if you could mount a pickup body to that frame. My thoughts are to use the 2.5 ton front cap b/c of the wider front axle, mount a crew cab body (if it would match up to the front cap), and a bed from a long bed dually. You could make that a really nice tow rig. Only problem is that those things are geared so low that they just scream at highway speed. Would be very loud and tiring on a long trip.
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Kind of like this guy did here with a SUBURBAN?
 
What about the Medium-Duty Mercedes Benzs MBE900 series of engines that Detroit offers? They have a 7.2 Liter version, which is capable of 330-HP/1000 Ft. Lb.s Torque.
 
ARAMP1 said:
Kind of like this guy did here with a SUBURBAN?
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Well that is a neat looking rig. I'd like to see the finished product. My thoughts were to take the 2.5 ton cab off, but leave the front cap. Then just add the crew cab and match it to the front cap. That way you would not have to weld the cabs together like it appears he did.

Wonder what kind of tranny/rearend you could use to give you better highway speed. 2.5 ton trucks are horribly loud at highway speed.
 
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