CK5
Register an account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members.

Do I need a "Winter Cover" for my grill?

Mike,
I think in your case the thermostat may be stuck open and it's running like there is no thermostat. A new one should fix your problem. With that said, I never had a thermostat in mine until I wintered in CO. It gets in the teens here in OK and I never had a problem with it warming up w/o one. Are you running a high flow pump too?


:doah:For got to list that---Yes!!!
 
Your thinking is definitely logical...if the engine is not even getting up to the current t-stat temp of 165 (assuming the t-stat is actually closing), then it won't get any higher with a 195 t-stat. Of course you also need to consider where the temp sending unit is located.

Overall a 165 t-stat is pretty low. The heater will only blow air into a cab that is a maximum delta (temperature difference) as compared to the coolant temp. Obviously if you have an engine running at 200 degrees you don't have 200 degree heat blasting out of the vents! The heater core and blower fan are both really small (compared to the radiator and engine fan) therefore it really limits the heat transfer efficiency.


I can't remember were the sensor is if it's before the t-stat or in front of it,so I will look into that.I did put a new stat in February had a leak in the housing.I will be changing the stat anyway Tonight or in the morning.I'll let every one know what's up then----Thanks Mike
 
i lived in alaska for my first 18 years.just about everyone i knew either ran cardboard or some type of cover over the radiator to help the engine stay warmer and have heat.along with block,oilpan,and battery heaters.lol.i used to run it and it helped quite a bit.if the engine never gets up to temp to open the t-stat,you will never get heat in the cab.or it will be very minimal
 
I think the issue is we're "thinking" in absolutes. Nothing is absolute in the engine compartment :haha:

I don't believe the t-stat completely shuts off the radiator flow. Covering the radiator grill doesn't really complete seal off all air from passing through it. Plus the intake air is alot colder at low temps, the engine does radiate some more heat (but not enough for air cooling), and the heater is much less efficient at really cold temps.

Diesel operate differently than gas engines. A diesel at low power output (like idling) puts out much lower btu. Years ago I drove my dad's diesel Rabbit at sub zero temps. The damn thing never got above "C" on the temp gauge on a 30 mile trip, nearly froze my ass off :eek:

Blankets work. Does your truck NEED one? Depends on your truck and where you drive. It's almost 10F out side right now and I just put cover on when a came home (gotta get to work in the morning :rolleyes:)
 
i lived in alaska for my first 18 years.just about everyone i knew either ran cardboard or some type of cover over the radiator to help the engine stay warmer and have heat.along with block,oilpan,and battery heaters.lol.i used to run it and it helped quite a bit.if the engine never gets up to temp to open the t-stat,you will never get heat in the cab.or it will be very minimal

Ditto.

When its minus 40C you NEED it or else the motor runs stupid cold and your cab is frozen. If you like wearing snowsuit, thick gloves, touques, etc. while driving then by all means run nothing. If you like to be warm inside and have a proper running engine get one. This applies for -15C and colder.
 
A couple of my opinions on the last couple of posts, so take them however you want:

- the diesel engine in my Blazer has always gotten up to operating temp. (t-stat temp.) and stayed there. I've started it up when it's below 0 out and it will sit there and warm up while at idle the same time.

- I think people can get confused between the difference of the heater actually blowing out warm air versus the cab getting warm. If it's -40C out you can quite possibly have an engine running 200 F and blowing out warm air, but the cab may never get warm simply because the heater does not have enough capacity to overcome A) how cold the cab was to start with, and B) the amount of heat loss inside the cab of the truck. Most trucks, especially olders ones, have relatively poor insulation and the cold on the outside can quickly overcome any heat on the inside. It's just like all the guys I know that insist on running a 160 t-stat in the summer, then switch to a 195 t-stat in the winter. They complain of it being too cold in the cabs during the winter with the lower temp t-stat...it's not that the engine is running any cooler (160 in the summer, and 160 in the winter), it's just that the heater can't put out enough heat with the lower t-stat.
 
Top Bottom