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Duramax or Cummins!?

Ok to be clear and not being a smartass in anyway. We have been playing the diesel truck game for 20 years. I know all the faults and expensive repairs very well! Lol!

We are GM people. What I wanted to know is. Would a Dodge be a better truck for lasting the long haul. Or stick with a GM?

We have 6 Duramaxes on our farm from every year 2001 to 2012 and one 01 Dodge Cummins.
Stock is the only way to compare. God only knows what can happen after it has been Focked with? And I don’t want a Ifs/solid axle debate. Ifs is fine for the intended use of theses trucks.

Excellent reply’s guys and thank you!


All things being equal, a vertical in-line engine will ALWAYS outlast a v-engine for one simple reason- gravity. V- engines will always have more wear issues because one side of the piston is laying against the cylinder wall and there is increased friction on that side. It's the main reason Cummins engines usually go 500k+ miles before you even think of opening them up. Same w/ the VW diesels. The little 4-cyl lasts much longer than the v-6. It's the same reason the massive diesels in ships are always in-line vertical cylinders.

If it was me, I'd look for an '11 and older Dodge. That was the last year before def was required.
 
I skipped most of the comments but my vote is a Furd! Skip the 2008-2010 6.4L and probably the early 6.7 2011-2012 trucks also. I always wait for the bugs to get worked out on a new version of anything. My boss has a '19 and loves it.

My brother in law has a deleted '12 dodge and my father in law has a non-deleted '12 also. Best year if you gotta go dodge. I think '13 they went to def.
 
@fastazz81 I didn't ask what all of the harnesses came out of. This was in late 2017 that I saw this. Have a friend who had hell with a Dodge car. He had found others with similar problems. New a guy who had interior wiring problems with his Cummins. A coworker who can't let his Cummins sit too long without starting it or the batteries are dead.

Stanadyne is supposed to have a good additive, I haven't tried it personally, gave a sample of it to a guy who didn't know if it helped. I know that the BG additive would help eliminate a rough idle on one truck. It was an '02 that the kid had beat on a lot.
A friend uses Marvel mystery oil mixed with power service.
I have been using Schaeffer's diesel treat in the fleet at work for years. We dosed a couple of trucks individually as a test before buying it in bulk. One truck had a stumble at 1100 rpm. After a week, it was gone. I was surprised. That mixer ran for 2.5 years before it needed an injector. We have had fewer injectors replaced on average since we started using the additive. We also saw a small increase in fuel economy when we checked one truck. Not much mind you, I believe that it was 1.5%.

Anti- gel is only one aspect to be concerned with. The lubricity and water removal are the larger factors from my experience. We found water in the fuel even though none of the truck tripped a light for it. I can't imagine what would happen in a humid environment.
 
Buddy of mine has a ram 2500. What he said makes sense. The engine is solid. It's the rest of the truck that falls away.

Myself, if I go diesel I'm gonna go to the dark side and get a furd. the new 6.7's are pretty good by most accounts but you dont want the very early ones as they had turbo bearing problems. They changed out the turbos in 13 or 14 and they're pretty solid now.
 
Ford is out of the question. The newer ones are nice but out of the price range.
We would like to be around 30 thousand Canadian.
 
Me likey this one! Dually, flatbed, 6 speed manual and a pre-def deleted 6.7L Higher that you want price wise though. Plus low mileage for what i usually see. https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6796102
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This dealer does a lot of trucks too. A buddy of mine just bought a gasser Chevy from them that they brought down from Canada and converted to US for him. https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6863675
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That is the other problem. Good Canadian trucks going to the USA... leaves us with very few stock trucks and lots of deleted trucks to look at. Deleted is fine! Bad deletes and tunes are not!
 
That is the other problem. Good Canadian trucks going to the USA... leaves us with very few stock trucks and lots of deleted trucks to look at. Deleted is fine! Bad deletes and tunes are not!
Yeah if it was me I would need a properly deleted not turned way up truck or a low mile bone stock old grandpa wagon. Hard thing to find now days.
 
I think Duramax makes the most sense for you guys. It's the platform you guys have the most experience with, combined with the fact you guys are "GM people".
 
I would rather step on legos barefoot every sunday morning for the rest of my life than to do another duramax water pump.

It’s not that bad... 4 hours.


Agreed Dean, mine took a few days (1st shot at it, and had to wait on a few parts) it was a PITA not having gone down that road before, but having the right tools and a bit of experience behind me, I would attempt it again rather than send it to a shop.
 
I think Duramax makes the most sense for you guys. It's the platform you guys have the most experience with, combined with the fact you guys are "GM people".
Plus we got Lorne our neighbor that’s a master GM tech. Lent him today our 12 Duramax for a fuse box problem on a 09. Turns out it was a bad wire... saved a few hundred in testing and throwing parts at it. Scratch his back... works out good!
 
Agreed Dean, mine took a few days (1st shot at it, and had to wait on a few parts) it was a PITA not having gone down that road before, but having the right tools and a bit of experience behind me, I would attempt it again rather than send it to a shop.
I was in a similar position when my son wanted to swap injectors and adjust the valves on his '03 D-max. I was concerned about my competence since I don't get to do engine work very often nor had I ever been into a little diesel.
It took us most of a weekend, but fired up perfectly!
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I still get a kick out of how his truck sounds at start up! And I have had several guys be shocked at how clean the oil is after 10K when he services it. The samples say that he could go farther. Hence , another reason I suggest staying with the Duramax.
 
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