Engine swap. which one, where, new or rebuilt?

[rjfguitar]

we should have this discussion face to face...I'd bet money you wouldn't be talkin **** or be on the ground while your talkin it. where do you live... Nothin pisses me off more than some dude who thinks hes bad cause he can talk **** on a computer. example: you are a wanker. sound like a third grader.

ah, just shut up already.....

If your gonna post something telling me what my motor has done to it know wtf your talking about. Im done explaining this **** to 84. Read my last 2 long ass posts and you'll realize you made yourself look like an ass.

Yeah, a member with 2 bazillion posts that has been around here for a LONG time, is older than you, has a lot more engine and wrenching experience....needs to know wtf he is talking about. You are just mad that he pointed out you have old, outdone perfomance tech. Relax, it's no biggie.

blah blah blah

stfu

I second....

since when is 9.3 a lot of compression that needs 91 and octane booster???? I'D SAY YOU NEED TO DO SOME PISTON RESEARCH. FOR SOME REASON YOU THINK ALL 427 HAVE 11:1 COMPRESSION. DISHED PISTONS MAN.
My dad bought a 383 that was identical to my motor except for the cam... it ran for 180,000 and was running strong when the van got parted. mY K5 RAN GREAT BUT IT HAD TO SHIFT TO 3RD TO GET UP ANY HILLS AT ALL AND HAD NOTHING IN OD. mADE GAS MILEAGE ABOUT 10. mORE HP WILL GET UP THE HILLS IN OD.

You think you are the "know it all because I've done it all" guy,
go do more research on long stroked 400's.

Transmissions 101:
When in hills, traffic, or towing, A L W A Y S pull the tranny out of Over drive!!!!!

If swapping the manifold, adapting the egr, pulling the tank and stock pump, fitting inline pump, wiring the stock pump wires to the inline pump, adding a hp tbi and headers, routing my own exhaust and cutting it to length, figuring the pulleys out with no diagram, putting the distributor in, timing it, taking off the manifold and rtving the water ports, changing the oil twice because water ports were leaking, changing the oil filter, and taking everything from my 88 and putting it on the 77 block like sending unit, sensors, smog accessories is dropping it in then yeah i dropped it in. NOt like the ram jet where you can literally drop it in and almost be done. Im in the middle of adapting the 2nd knock sensor right now. You can't just "drop in a77 longblock block into an 88. I had to pull the tranny and tcase before that to get the servo replaced.

Sounds like a jerry rigged mess to me.... I wouldn't drive that to my mailbox. Many of us have already done that whole "jerry rig" phase and from experience afterwards, would have gone a simpler, easier, and ultamitly a better route that may cost a little more but is a LOT better in the long run. For example: trying to jerry rig up some 35 yr old tech engine to a stock TBI setup that is unlreliable...vs...a drop in, ready to roll Ram Jet with current performance hard part tech on the inside and amuch smoother, more powerful, and efficient fuel tech on the outside.

You act like im some dumbass teenager who doesn't know wtf he's talkin about

That is because you ARE making yourself sound like a dumb, "know it all" teenager that OBVIOUSLY doesn't know what he is talking about.

THAT KIND OF THINKING COMES FROM GUYS WHO HAVE THEIRS TRUCKS TAKIN TO SHOPS TO GET THEIR OIL CHANGED. I DID THE WHOLE SWAP BY MYSELF. i AM 17 AND IT WAS THE FIRST CAR MOTOR I'VE SWAPPED... ID SAY THAT'S PRETTY DAMN GOOD ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING ITS A 375 HP TBI WITH A 77 HIGH NICKEL CONTENT(FOR BETTER RELIABILITY) THAT I ADAPTED TO FIT AN 88. i GET THE FEELING YOU HAVEN'T PICKED UP MORE THAN A COUPLE WRENCHES. NO OFFENSE BUT ITS GUYS LIKE YOU THAT KEEP THE SHOPS LIKE JIFFY LUBE IN BUSINESS. YOU'D RATHER PAY A REDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY INSTEAD OF DOING A LITTLE WRENCHIN AND PUT THE PARTS ON YOURSELF.

Would you like an engine installation award? The funny thing is that most of us have assembled our engines ourselves and just had the hard parts machined, not assembled.....and you think you are some hot dodo(I don't have the need to swear every other word ) wrencher because you R&R'd an engine that is easy to do and takes just a couple hours to accomplish by a seasoned GM mechanic with a set of basic hand tools.

You think you know everything about everything because you are 17 and dropped a pre assembled 35 year old engine into a Baskin Robbins 31 flavors K5. Sit back, relax, and let yourself learn something by the info that some of these guys have to offer from their experience, something you are much lacking.

 

[dirtwarrior17]

did you read that **** or not. they use my heads on 613 hp naturally aspirated hot rods. Sorry for the bickering but this dude won't stfu.

The motor has new pistons becuase the headers smoke and my dad can tell it's 10:1 from listening to the motor... your convinced i got ripped and yeah alot of people do but i'm sitting hear listening to it watching it torque over in the engine compartment like the nasty little motor that it is. when i started it up for the first time all my neighbors were asking what it has in it and kept telling me it sounds damn good. I saw the same exact motor that is sitting in my truck at the shop and heard it run before i bought it. I looked for 3 months so i wouldn't get screwed and talked to the builder 1 week before i bidded on the phone. ebay is a good way to get screwed and that's why i made sure i didn't.

Ask around about the l-79 cam. It made 350 hp in the old 327's with a little higher compression and a big carb except mine is brand new and has hydraulic lifters. YOu obviously have no clue about chevy's products. 375 hp is 375 hp. This thing is a beast. you stab the throttle and its at 4000. imean quick. everyone who has been around my motor when it spins up says it's gonna make a lot of power. It comes off idle in the blink of and eye and responds AS SOON as it's told to. YOu are on a computer probably 2000 miles away and your telling me how my motor runs.... damn. stfu

why are you dedset on me getting screwed? Like i said i don't care if you beleive me... I got master mechanics and my dad(who has built over 200 smallblocks)telling me that its brand new and sounds like it has ten to 1. Is it a coincidence that the brand new headers i bought smoked just like new motors allways do the first 10 or so startups or did he get to my headers and put something on em that made em smoke??/?? Can that happen without boring it out to make it a tight fit?....no. I got a good deal on a high hp motor. Accept it and stfu. I've talked to people who have bought his motors and they showed me a dyno sheets of a motors like mine with 420 hp. It had a bigger carb but thats it. You think this is a scam because you probably got screwed but when i spend 1500 on a powerplant i make damn sure has the right **** in it.

 

[rjfguitar]

Don't worry about apologizing. I understand you guys have strong opinions, and want me to get the best advice around, so I appreciate pointing out what may be flaws in other peoples advice.

I would like to mention that this sort of thing is definantly not regular. But...every once and a while we get some trouble maker that stirs everyone's pot.

 

[rjfguitar]

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dirtboy17= over two dozen posts. Tim= less than a handfull of SHORT posts.....

The motor has new pistons becuase the headers smoke and my dad can tell it's 10:1 from listening to the motor...

Can he tell what gears are in the diffs too by smelling the gear oil?

when i started it up for the first time all my neighbors were asking what it has in it and kept telling me it sounds damn good.

Woopee. People would come up to me telling me how good my K5 sounded with a worn out 350 through stock exhaust besides a two chamber flowmaster and fancy tip welded on the end....

 

[dirtwarrior17]

Read my post for gods sake.

lmao... that post is about a week old and there has already been about 4 more long ass ones after that one. REad them all before you pick up a conversation that is a week old.

If you read the posts i said that because i live in california where ram jets aren't smog legal and i don't have 5000 dollars to spend on a assembled motor.

I bought my motor as a longblock not pre assembled

You are just mad that he pointed out you have old, outdone perfomance tech. Relax, it's no biggie.

I could care less my heads are 35 years old... they make 375 hp on this motor and have made a lot more on other motors. all that matters to me. they have had a 3 angle valve job and have all brand new pushrods, lifters, springs and valves. you don't know this motor.... stop trying to. It doesn't work over a computer.

For example: trying to jerry rig up some 35 yr old tech engine to a stock TBI setup that is unlreliable

You need to do some research on holley manifolds.

Sounds like a jerry rigged mess to me.... I wouldn't drive that to my mailbox. Many of us have already done that whole "jerry rig" phase and from experience afterwards, would have gone a simpler, easier, and ultamitly a better route that may cost a little more but is a LOT better in the long run. For example: trying to jerry rig up some 35 yr old tech engine

I put a holley manifold on and the rest went off without a hitch. If you want to spend a ****load more for a warranty that is gone in a year... go ahead. i didn't have the money. You act like the whole motor came from 35. everything on there is either brand new reconditioned or from my 88. the heads were designed 35 years ago... who cares. they make 613 hp with a little modification. You think you know my swap down to the last bit..... once again.... stfu. Have you seen my motor, listened to it, or even thought about it for more than 5 min no. Like i said you are on a computer 2000 miles away and have no clue what your talking about. You think my **** is jerry rigged i say lmfao

Obviously this will never end.
I have a reason and response for every thing i say because i've done the research you suggest i do months ago when i was looking for a motor. My mom is broke and my dad is too. I payed for, sourced, and installed all the parts myself. YOu think im trying to convince everyone that means im the ****. I said that because i have had many months sitting next to this motor and wrenching on it just becuase i didn't have the money for certain parts to go forward in my swap. This was the FIRST MOTOR i have installed and it is all done and running. Keep your opinions to yourself and this will stop. I KNOW my own truck and motor. Just because you have done this before doesn't mean you know this motor. If you could see it and listen to it then i would listen but you can't so how can you tell what is goin on??? A master mechanic has confirmed everything i told you here. Im tired of this.

 

[dirtwarrior17]

wtf is your problem....

yoU WANT TO BE A PRICK ABOUT THIS FOR WHAT REASON?

MY **** IS FINE. YOU SAY IT'S NOT. GOOD FOR YOU. WTF DO YOU KNOW. YOU CAN'T TELL **** ABOUT A PARTICULAR MOTOR FROM SITTING DOWN AND READING A POST WHEN I HAVEN'T EVEN SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE SWAP OR IF I BOUGHT I ASSEMBLED OR COMPLETE. YEAH I POSTED THAT IT WAS A LONG BLOCK 2 SECONDS AGO BUT YOU'LL PROBABLY QUOTE IT AND PUT IT OUT OF CONTEXT JUST LIKE YOU HAVE EVERY OTHER QUOTE. GIVE UP THIS IS ****ING RETARDED. jUST CAUSE YOUR OLDER AND HAVE DONE THIS DOESN'T MEAN **** TO ME BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT THIS MOTOR. I SPENT MONTHS ON MONTHS MAKIN EXACTLY SURE ALL THE **** YOU GUYS THINK HAPPENED DIDN'T HAPPEN.

IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE I GOT RIPPED AND BOUGHT A 35 YEAR OLD MOTOR TO YOU. TRY THE HEADS NOT THE MOTOR. THOSE HEADS MADE 375 HP 35 YEARS AGO AND THEY WILL STILL DO IT TODAY. ONE MANIFOLD FROM HOLLEY AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BOLT ALL THE EFI UP. yOU MIGHT KNOW YOUR **** BUT YOU DON'T KNOW MY **** SO .......

STFU.

 

[rjfguitar]

Just the response I figured.....

You don't get it, no one NEEDS to listen or see your engine. Most of us know what it is just by the list of parts.

You can quit defending your engine. Everyone knows your combo by now. The point is that you don't understand, that it is nothing compared to the Ram Jet's technology. And is a backyard deal that most people won't except as reliable and would much prefer a new engine with current, efficient technology than the "parts from this, parts from that" routeene.

My main point is that you think you know everything about everything and are acting like a whiny little girl. Cut it out, it's annoying....

 

[dirtwarrior17]

HAHA AND IM GONNA LISTEN.

THE COMBO IS NOT WHAT IM DEFENDING. IT'S THE QUALITY OF THE MOTOR. YES THE TECHNOLOGY IS WORSE IM NOT DOUBTING THAT BUT IT COST $3500 LESS THAN A RAM JET MAKES AS MUCH OR MORE POWER AND IS SMOG LEGAL...

a RAM JET IS A GOOD MOTOR NO MATTER WHAT WAY I PUT IT BUT IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO CHEAP.

yOUR KILLIN ME WITH THE INSULTS... IM GONNA NEED COUNSELING.

ROFL

I CAN SEE YOU GUYS GOT EACH OTHERS BACK AND ARE GONNA DEFEND EACH OTHER LIKE YOU SLEEP IN THE SAME BED.... OH AND THIS POST IS OVER.

 

[84_Chevy_K10]

I would like to mention that this sort of thing is definantly not regular. But...every once and a while we get some trouble maker that stirs everyone's pot.

Pretty bad when we have one that actually irritates me with ignorance and stupidity.

 

[mini_mull]

Glad this isn't normal. Not that I care all that much, as long as I get the info I'm looking for somewhere along the way, which I have this time, so I'm happy. Discussed the choices with my other half last night, and we both decided if the current engine makes it until mid-fall, we should be able to do the HT 383. By then we'll be settled and I can do it in my own garage with the help of my husband's cousin. But if we have to replace it before then, we'll be stuck with the GM goodwrench stock replacement, not the end of the world, but definitely not as much fun. I'll also have to keep my "new" stock 87 burb, well, stock, in order to save pennies for the HT. No fun stuff for awhile, but I think it will be worth it. Thanks for all the help and info.

 

[rjfguitar]

The HT383 is a great choice as long as it can be made to work with the stock TBI setup reliably.

 

[hi pinion]

I see you guys oiled the squeky wheel. HEY DIRTWARRIOR,,,, please be quiet when grown men are talking.Children are to be seen, not heard.....

 

[darkshadow]

Yeah but when he uses big letters what he says must be important!!!!!

 

[mini_mull]

rjfguitar, the tech guy at pace said it would work just fine with stock TBI, plus I'll probably upgrade to the Holley direct replacement TBI anyway. He said they'd done it there before with no prob several times. He just listed off a bunch of stuff like intake, exhaust, custom chip, that would be needed different than stock. Seemed to know what he was talking about, hope so.

 

[rjfguitar]

rjfguitar, the tech guy at pace said it would work just fine with stock TBI, plus I'll probably upgrade to the Holley direct replacement TBI anyway. He said they'd done it there before with no prob several times. He just listed off a bunch of stuff like intake, exhaust, custom chip, that would be needed different than stock. Seemed to know what he was talking about, hope so.

Cool. So just a chip and the holley TB flow enough fuel? Sounds like a good way to go.

hipinion/darkshadow,

 

[dirtwarrior17]

Just wanted to talk about motors...


you guys wanted to tell me how i got screwed...

frustrates the hell out of me when you sit there on your computer and tell me stuff thats not even true about my motor....the camels humps were a fuel injection head for the old corvettes. Made close to and i think over in some models, 400 hp.

Even if the camels didn't work, i spend my next grand on sportsman 2 heads and i got a 87 octane dogwater motor that makes over 400 hp for 2500. The camels will work just fine until i get the money. for now i can deal with 375 hp for 1500.

 

[ryoken]

Just wanted to talk about motors...

no you didn't.... you wanted to spew about your setup some more...

you just don't get it do you? it has nothing to do what you think it does.. its your whole approach to this forum. how many threads have you started asking for advice about your 355, then turned around and started arguing with the people trying to assist you?

you need a serious lesson in humility son, hopefully the military will help you out in that department... instead of realizing, "hey theres alot of guys with tons of experience here, i might wanna listen", you think you know it all...

apparently not if you can't install an intake properly.. for your sake, i hope you did that and not your motor guy...

btw, mobbin?!? pull your damn pants up!!!

 

[hi pinion]

Theres guys on this forum pushing 1000 HP merlin engines sitting back laughing there asses off right now at this thread,,,BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Oh its all just too much....

 

[dirtwarrior17]

You got ripped.



Quote:
that's why i said a ram jet is a rip off, for me anyway.

You spent your hard earned dollars on something I could have built in my garage for about $200 with a bottle brush hone, a new set of rings, bearings, and gaskets.

The whole point of building an engine for a Chevy nowadays is to replace the cylinder heads with some that have more efficient ports and combustion chambers, replace the pistons to achieve the compression ratio desired, deck the block to zero to get correct quench, and potentially replace the crank to build a stroker...none of which were done by the person that built your motor for you (likely because you couldn't handle it and are a total douche).

Oh yeah and you're still a wanker.

Go away. Now.

If thats not stirrin the pot what is?

You expect me to be quite after this.... maybe you do but i don't take bs like that lying down. If somebody told you got ripped and that he could build your motor for 200 bucks what would you say? You would probably call him a dumbass for saying something that stupid. Parts are 1000. I'm not gonna list the parts because i can see this will never end. Yeah my posts were hella long... if you read the thing this conversation would have been over a long time ago. If it LOOKS like somethin to you over the computer thats awesome...I could care less. my **** is fine and will make plenty of power until i get some money for heads.

Take this **** way too personal.... relax.

you just don't get it do you? it has nothing to do what you think it does.. its your whole approach to this forum. how many threads have you started asking for advice about your 355, then turned around and started arguing with the people trying to assist you?

not many... I've gotten alot of problems solved. You need to realize that for the last year my whole focus was gettin this truck to run for the cheapest, most reliable hp for the money and some most of the things i argued about was because i already tried ... I have spent a rediculous amount of time doing research on my setup and spent 2500 on the complete setup. I will take some pics when i get a digital camera.

The bolt on the intake broke because it was aluminum... my brother grabbed it and handed it to me...if thats not knowing how to install an intake then yeah i don't know how to install and intake.... its that **** that pisses me off. Im not saying im the **** im only saying this to let you know im not as ignorant on this subject as you think.... My dad and i have built houseboat pontoons, boats, motors, bikes, and just about everything else, i like to wrench... and have spent a lot of time( alot more than you think) doing the same things you have. You tell me i don't know how to install an intake it's gonna piss me off because thats not the case and you know it isn't... I get the feeling you want me to say somemore **** if you keep saying stuff like that.

It might be my whole approach to this forum.... yet your dedset that i got screwed. YOu would defend your **** the same way.

I figured by telling you that i was 17 you would realize that I want to listen to advice to get help for my truck... telling me i got screwed is not advice..

I got pissed because you act like you have my whole swap and motor in pictures and have seen whats inside of my motor, know how it runs, and think it's 35 years old.

The heads.... thats it. new heads and shes as good as new. The heads are brand new with a valve job and doesn't need anything. This setup will last for a long time... Once again, my pop is telling it will and the same goes for the master mechanic at the chevy dealer who came by and checked it all out. Who would you listen to if you were me? a guy on the computer who has never even seen your motor or a master mechanic who gave it a checkover.
The headers still smoke. its alll good and new. has to have been bored and honed and as long as the block is fine there is no reason it won't last as long as the warrantied motors.

 

[hi pinion]

Oh boy, what a jacket youve put on yourself here at ck5 ,,in such a short period of time. Charging out of the gate. When you are through jumping around like a bunny,these guys are going to sting your head with knowledge .Good luck finding any help on here now. Most of these guys are real nice ,decent motorminded guys. You need to come with respect towards us. You have sacraficed a long-term membership and it is very stupid. I dont know where you think youre trying to go with it all. But jumping around like Little Billy Bad-ass isnt the way to go around here. Your going to get knocked down a peg, that is for sure. I know you think your truck can beat up everyone elses truck, you know everything already, youre the boss. Youre such a jackass, im going to enjoy watching these boys school your ass with stinging persicion. In conclution,,,, your miscellanious ramblings are clutering up the thread. You go Wittle Biwwie Bad Ass,,oh yeah you go boy. Get down with that retarted crap.