I'm still pretty stuck on my 430s and my old 420s (with the skinny handles that can fit inside and debur 1/2 inch conduit) -for general purpose plier type use? they just still seem like the best bang for the buck, and all around general purpose use. I had a pair of the old Knipex pliers with the push button on the side to adjust. the quality WAS there, but so was the price tag... actual use and convenience didnt justify the cost to me.Well, got a few hours use on the medium Alligators. So far I like them better than the Cobra.
give us a review vs the 420s after some use!I used the medium Alligators all day today working with sealtite connectors and other fasteners. I like the Alligators better than the Cobras, but I'm still not sold on them being better than my 420s.
The jaw shape made it awkward griping the connectors several times. While they grip good once you get them on, the 420s don't require the effort to make sure they're aligned with their straight jaws.
The leverage was similar and I didn't notice an appreciable difference in the grip pressure needed vs my 420s.
We'll see. Like I said, I'm going to use them the rest of the month then go back to my 420/440 combo and see if I find myself missing the Knipex.
I had a pair of the old Knipex pliers with the push button on the side to adjust. the quality WAS there, but so was the price tag... actual use and convenience didnt justify the cost to me.
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L= lightI do have a question for the brighter minds out there. It’s got an L and M switch. I think the M gets it moving but the L does nothing.![]()
I’ll have to look, thanksL= light
See a bulb somewhere?

Usually it's between the drill head and the vertical support. They are really handy.I’ll have to look, thanks![]()