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Miller prices are outrageous now days. There's a million cheap welders and lots of them pretty good from the YouTube guys i see using them. It's a rabbit hole to go down researching them. The YesWelders seem pretty good if you aren't using it every day. Lots of other brands too.
 
I've had great luck with Miller, over the years I've sold a Millermatic 211, a Syncrowave 210, and the Multimatic 220, since I took excellent care of them, combined, I sold them for the same as I paid for them, the resale is crazy. However, the initial cost is quite a bit more.

If you are on a budget Hobart is cheaper and still a quality unit, same company as Miller, just less adjustability and features. The Handler 210 is comparable to the Millermatic 211. My father has had a Hobart 180 MIG for nearly 30 years, still works great.

If you want very low cost some people really like the Primeweld or Everlast stuff, I just couldn't bring myself to buy an offshore welder because it's still a lot of money and I worry it's a throw away.

HTP is in between like Hobart, but made in Italy and cheaper than a Miller or Lincoln but not so cheap you would feel like it's a throw away.
Thank you for this info, I do want 220 put in to a plug at the new house.
 
Place o bought my Lincoln sells both Miller and Lincoln.

Lady there steered me towards the Lincoln because you can use the cheaper priced tweco consumables.
Ive used both a lot and both are awesome.

Only ever used an arc welder by hobart.
But the little I did it worked good.

Been debating a vulcan tig.
 
Nice welder, I can't wait to up mine. Thinking of going to a miller 211 auto set or maybe one of those everlast multi process weldesr.
Thanks.

I really liked that Miller Multimatic 220 AC/DC, it did every process I needed, I only wanted more amperage, but it's enough for most. 230 A MIG and 210 A TIG.

The Multimatic 215 is like a 211 with DC TIG as well for a lot less than the 220, only missing AC TIG.

The new HTP revolution 250 is a little more amperage and has AC TIG too, might be one of the best all around units?

If Miller made a Multimatic 300 AC/DC I would of gotten it instead. The Multimatic 255 is close, but it's DC only, like a Super version of the Multimatic 215.

What I have now I plan to keep forever.
 
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I've had great luck with Miller, over the years I've sold a Millermatic 211, a Syncrowave 210, and the Multimatic 220, since I took excellent care of them, combined, I sold them for the same as I paid for them, the resale is crazy. However, the initial cost is quite a bit more.

If you are on a budget Hobart is cheaper and still a quality unit, same company as Miller, just less adjustability and features. The Handler 210 is comparable to the Millermatic 211. My father has had a Hobart 180 MIG for nearly 30 years, still works great.

If you want very low cost some people really like the Primeweld or Everlast stuff, I just couldn't bring myself to buy an offshore welder because it's still a lot of money and I worry it's a throw away.

HTP is in between like Hobart, but made in Italy and cheaper than a Miller or Lincoln but not so cheap you would feel like it's a throw away.
I didn't know htp moved to Italy?
When I bought mine in 2002 it was usa weldand proud of it.
I just checked and the deal happened recently I 2022.
I have their mig and plasma cutter.
At least Italy not China
 
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How do you fill them? Places around hear won't swap anything bigger than 120 unless you rent it from them.
I know a guy :cool: but also the 2 big shops dont care . If good bottle they swap . If you need your bottle back send up & back to fill 1week turn around .

My guy his parents use to own the 1 local place . I got deals galor back in the day .

I am currently sitting on 15 bottles and almost 20 bottles of propane ( for work ) .

I have 2 300 cf oxy . 1 fat 300 ish cf acetylene and 250ish one . Then 3 330 cf c-25 mix mig gas . 3 or 4 of them c-25 mix for small welder . And 2 pair of porta torch bottles . And a random here or there bottle .

Found cheep over the years and horded them and now bottle shortage and places getting strict its paying off big time .
 
Miller prices are outrageous now days. There's a million cheap welders and lots of them pretty good from the YouTube guys i see using them. It's a rabbit hole to go down researching them. The YesWelders seem pretty good if you aren't using it every day. Lots of other brands too.
Lincoln also . I just priced a close replacment for my 216 power mig miller is closest ( least amount of tech ) and its 4,600 bucks . I paid new 10 years ago in the box my 216 1,800 out the door :yikes:

I just found a clean used 216 like mine and paid 1,200 no questions . . . I can flip it for 2x or more easy all day . So money in the bank .

I got it cause i need my 1st 216 fixed . But needed a welder to finish my big tank build so i just purchased it .
 
Place o bought my Lincoln sells both Miller and Lincoln.

Lady there steered me towards the Lincoln because you can use the cheaper priced tweco consumables.
Ive used both a lot and both are awesome.

Only ever used an arc welder by hobart.
But the little I did it worked good.

Been debating a vulcan tig.
Hobart is miller off brand .
 
Nice welder, I can't wait to up mine. Thinking of going to a miller 211 auto set or maybe one of those everlast multi process weldesr.

You can't go wrong with the 211, I had one for over 10 years and sold it for what I paid for it new. It was the original transformer model 211. The new inverter models are half the weight.

The Multimatic 215 is like a 211, plus DC TIG and Stick. I have only ever used stick once, and that was in Jr high shop class, it worked fine. In actual projects I've only used MIG and TIG, less cleanup and fumes. I think if I needed to weld outside stick might be ok but I would rather just use flux core wire. Stick definitely has its applications though, just not my typical uses.

The Multimatic 255 is like a 215 on steriods, its a Millermatic 255 plus DC TIG and Stick, but much higher amperage and duty cycle.

If I was getting a Multiprocess unit and didn't need AC TIG, I would get a Multimatic 215 or 255.

If I wanted AC TIG, I would get a Multimatic 220 again, or ESAB Rebel, or the HTP Revolution 2500 looks very appealing!

Miller prices are outrageous now days. There's a million cheap welders and lots of them pretty good from the YouTube guys i see using them. It's a rabbit hole to go down researching them. The YesWelders seem pretty good if you aren't using it every day. Lots of other brands too.

That's true, I've wanted a Dynasty 300 for a while but wouldn't spend the money because of the cost. But when I found the new one at half price, I couldn't pass it up. Also, I can't deny my experience with Miller thus far has been excellent, I have been able to buy 3 new welders, and sell them for what I paid for them, not every one, broke even on the 211, lost some on the Syncrowave, and actually made money on the 220, but still overall a great experience. Chinese welders will basically have no resale, or a fraction of the original cost, I don't trust them long term.

However, I also think you see all these good reviews on youtube and they were given the machine, or they sell them. Granted some wouldn't sell them if they didn't trust them but I think a lot of them are just trading videos for money. Everlast and Primeweld seem to have been around long enough to at least offer good customer service. The other new stuff such as Yeswelder and Arccaptain I feel are too new to know if they will be around for long?

I didn't know htp moved to Italy?
When I bought mine in 2002 it was usa weldand proud of it.
I just checked and the deal happened recently I 2022.
I have their mig and plasma cutter.
At least Italy not China

I think they are still good quality, Italy has much better quality than China. I'd take a European unit over any chinese unit. ESAB is Swedish and Fronius is Austrian, Fronius is a high end welder and actually lower cost than Miller. But a lot of the consumables are proprietary, so you can't just get tips or torch parts etc at any weld shop. And since the connections are different you can't just replace the whole torch with a CK or Weldcraft either.
 
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I have a yes welder multiprocess and while the quality isn't Miller or Lincoln, it has a built-in plasma cutter so it's really a one stop shop. It works well for my occasional recreational uses.
 
I like your HD ground clamp and the wireless foot pedal too!

What model is that helmet?
25’ of copper keeps me from having to drag the machine around. It mostly stays put. That’s Miller’s digital infinity 4x. Clear a day and zero color tinting.

You’re going to love the low amp AC control. I’m not a practiced aluminum welder, but this organizer bin was substantially easier than I thought it would be.

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25’ of copper keeps me from having to drag the machine around. It mostly stays put. That’s Miller’s digital infinity 4x. Clear a day and zero color tinting.

You’re going to love the low amp AC control. I’m not a practiced aluminum welder, but this organizer bin was substantially easier than I thought it would be.

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Nice project, terrific work as always!

You are right on that one, I put a 25 ft torch and ground on the new setup. Before I had to untangle the foot pedal cable so I could move the entire welder just to tack the header tube on the car for example and then put it all back. Now I can just leave the welder sit as the cables reach the whole car from the welding bench, effortlessly move the wireless foot pedal and its much quicker!

I bought a new Clearlight 4X helmet with the new welder. But I got the Elite not the Infinity, about a year ago I bought a 1.5X magnifier for my ~15 year old Digital Elite. They have come a long way, the old one was green tinted and this new is is as it says, clear! I didn't buy the infinity because the magnifiers aren't as big as the elite anyway, but perhaps I missed other benefits of it. I was also able to still use all my spare lexan pieces as they haven't changed for the elite.

I find I can still make my eyes focus while reading and such so I don't have reading glasses yet, but you don't have time for that during welding, especially TIG, if you can't see for a moment during all the changing light conditions, you just messed up. You just have to get used to it, because I'll get everything setup for the weld and then I'll flip the helmet down to start the weld and think, why is the gap too big? Then flip the helmet back up and realize it isn't, the lens just magnifies the gap too...:rotfl:
 
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