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Help me INSTALL a big block...Bought a 468!

I see. Maybe that is a problem on the older rigs (1967-1972), but not at all on the newer rigs.

Martin
 
82355 said:
I see. Maybe that is a problem on the older rigs (1967-1972), but not at all on the newer rigs.

Martin
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Yeah, the firewall clearance is at a premium in these older ones. I have the motor/tranny moved forward 2" already, but I'm still not sure it'll clear.
 
OK, I have already ordered: valve covers, oil dipstick, ignition parts (couldn't pass up that kit), and a equus timing light.

Here is my shopping cart list at Summit:
Allstar Performance ALL30171 - Allstar Performance Chevy Aluminum Water Necks


Water Neck, CNC Aluminum, Polished, O-Ring, 45 Degree, Chevy, Big/Small Block/V6, Each

AAF-ALL30171

$18.99

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ACDelco R42TS - ACDelco Conventional Resistor Spark Plugs


Spark Plug, AC Delco, Nickel Alloy, Resistor, Ford/GM/Mopar, 1.6/1.8/2.0/2.8/3.7/5.0/5.8L, Each

ACF-R42TS

$1.95

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$15.60
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ARP 130-1602 - ARP Fuel Pump Bolt Kits


Fuel Pump Bolts, Chromoly, Black Oxide, Hex, Chevy, Big Block, Small Block, Kit

ARP-130-1602

$6.77

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$6.77
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Fram G3 - Fram Fuel Filters


Fuel Filter, Aston Martin, Lincoln, Pontiac, Studebaker, Passenger Car, Each

FRM-G3

$3.95

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$3.95
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Hooker Headers 2455HKR - Hooker Competition Headers


Headers, Competition, Full-Length, Steel, Painted, Chevy, GMC, 396, 402, 427, 454, Pair

HOK-2455HKR

$179.95

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$179.95
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Oversize Manufacturer Rebate
Mr. Gasket 1009 - Mr. Gasket Distributor Hold-Down Clamps


Distributor Hold-Down Clamp, Steel, Chrome, Bolt Mount, Chevy, Small/Big Block, Each

MRG-1009

$3.95

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$3.95
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Stant Products 431-45358 - Stant SuperStat Thermostats


Thermostat, SuperStat, 180 Degree F, Each

SNN-45358

$6.95

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$6.95
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Summit Racing SUM-250022-1 - Summit Racing® Mechanical Fuel Pumps


Fuel Pump, Mechanical, Chevy, Big Block, Each

SUM-250022-1

$55.95

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$55.95
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Summit Racing SUM-G1490A - Summit Racing® Stainless Steel Header Bolts


Header Bolts, Hex Head, Stainless Steel, Natural, 3/8 in.-16, 0.750 in. U.H.L., Set of 16

SUM-G1490A

$16.95

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Summit Racing SUM-G3317BOLT - Summit Racing® Replacement Valve Cover Bolts


Bolts, Steel, Chrome, 1/4 in.-20, Chevy, Big Block, Cast Valve Cover, Set of 14

SUM-G3317BOLT

$14.95

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Summit Racing SUM-G4757ID - Summit Racing® Exhaust Reducer Kits


Header Reducers, 3-Bolt Flange, 3.5 in. Inlet, 2.5 in. Outlet, Steel, Natural, Pair

SUM-G4757ID

$29.95

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Summit Racing SUM-PANKIT10 - Summit Racing® Pro Pack Oil Pan and Pump Kits


Combo, Oil Pan, Black Zinc, Pickup, High-Volume Pump, Shaft, Tray, Scraper, Gaskets, Chevy, Big Block, Kit

SUM-PANKIT10

$344.70

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Part Subtotal$698.66

Everything look ok or do I need to change something?

I need to add to this: oil pan bolts.

Can you guys think of anything else? Also, can you recommend a fuel pressure regulator? It rained here all day so I didn't get to look at my current fuel lines to see what size they are.
 
Hey Z-

On that listing it doesn't specifically say that the distributor or the wires are MSD and I am guessing that is where they can save their money. That is just my guess.

-Jacob
 
Sean, you got a Tractor supply store nearby?
They got grade 8 bolts for cheap in bulk...grade 5 for less which would be good for much of the applications your buying bolts for!
 
Z71paramedic said:
Yeah, the firewall clearance is at a premium in these older ones. I have the motor/tranny moved forward 2" already, but I'm still not sure it'll clear.
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Well, as usual, I don't have much experience with firewall/distributor clearance problems.
For some strange reason it never seems to come up with Fords.......:whistle:

But, I have heard of a special tool that they make for solving that problem.
Finally found a picture of one.

Hope it helps.



firewall adjuster.jpg

firewall adjuster.jpg
 
Kinda hard to tell with the black firewall, but here's the clearance on my Mallory distributor with a standard cap. Its NOT HEI. Engine has been raised 3/4" over stock, but not moved forward.

IMG_4556.sized.jpg


Moved 2" forward, I think you might be ok with what you have.
 
ekajkrats said:
Hey Z-

On that listing it doesn't specifically say that the distributor or the wires are MSD and I am guessing that is where they can save their money. That is just my guess.

-Jacob
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Crap, hadn't noticed that. I guess we'll see when it shows up...

Dave, I'm not sure if there's a tractor supply nearby or not, I'll have to look.

AJ, thanks for that pic. I'm curious if I'll have any clearance issues where the factory clutch pushrod would come through either. It'd be nice if I didn't have to mess with it.
 
I'll get a better pic for you this weekend from the driver's side.

EDIT: I didn't do any clearancing on the firewall for the distributor itself. No changes on the height of the dish. I only changed the width to clear the valve covers.
 
Oh yeah... I expect your actual build thread to be fully updated (retroactively) with all this big block goodness.
 
You know, I'm not entirely sure why I haven't been updating that...

I could pull the "Adam" and post the same thing in 4 places.



























PAD:D
 
Get a pump that doesn't need a reg. You are changing it anyway when fi happens.
 
80' 427 said:
Get a pump that doesn't need a reg. You are changing it anyway when fi happens.
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Oh, right on. Thought it was recommended earlier that I get a reg inline with dual feeds to the carb. Will the pump I have in that list work? This one:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-250022-1

This big block stuff is making me feel like a total newb again btw...
 
That pump is fine. You are just finding out how great they are.
 
80' 427 said:
That pump is fine. You are just finding out how great they are.
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It's true!

I find that I over-think things I've never done before. When it comes time to rip the front clip and pull the small block I'll get after it like a fat kid on a cupcake:saweet::saweet::saweet:
 
76zimmer said:
right on the fuel pump Sean, I suggested an electric pump which requires a regulator, some mechanicals don't...be sure to check though. I got a this Holley....

http://www.jegs.com/i/Holley/510/12-454-11/10002/-1?parentProductId=
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Thanks Dave, I'll look into whether or not a regulator is needed for that summit brand. With the Holley being almost twice as much and my intentions to eventually go EFI, I'm not certain I need the nicer pump for now. Summit is usually pretty good about warranty stuff too and a mech. fuel pump isn't a hard one to change.
 
Same pump. A Holley red would most likely be plenty and doesn't require a reg.
 
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