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High Angle T-case E-brake

yeah, that was what I feared. Eh, parking brake will be one of the last thoughts so for now, not worried about it :D
 
k5freak44 said:
lol you said dick

if you are comparing these to caddy caliper ebrakes, price wise, caddys come out cheaper
biggest reason i had for using a t-case mounted ebrake was cables of a stock type setup being in harms way under the truck :dunno:
 
ntsqd said:
You really don't want to go there for long term use. Like parked in your sloped driveway. Something like this can work for short term apps. Like getting out of the truck to look where the rock under you rolled to.

The problem with long term is that the pressure will bleed off. A good system might take days, or it might not take that long and then your posts would be missed.

Something like the Jamar Park-Loc can be put in your service brake system for the short term uses.

My electric line locks will last longer than my batteries. It takes like 18 hours to kill my batteries enough so it wouldn't start... but the linelocks were still holding. If you're going to be parked more than overnight you should be using some kind of mechanical anti roll device to stop it. IE: not mechanical or hydraulic brakes. Leaving your vented rotors clamped or your drums expanded for extended periods of time isn't the best. I wouldn't worry about solid rotors.
 
cybersniper, What brand of line lock are you using? I forgot mine on (toggle switch) and noticed the selenoid got very hot, making the whole thing hot, and leak around the threads. It's one of the summit ones, still works
 
Biondo brand. Mine get warm but you can still touch them without discomfort. The floor in my truck gets warmer when driving.
 
i agree with the cost being a bit much for what it is. i bought one though for a few of reasons, first i wanted to clean up the under side of my rig, didnt want anything that can or will get hung up on trail stuff. the 2nd reason is it has a good rep about its function and reliability, the 3rd reason is i have more then one truck to put one on, i can use the first one i bought to make my own which i have started on. only i am making the disc and caliper out of 316 stainless and the cable mount pin out of titanium, and the hub adapter out of 4130 cromoly. it is so much easier to make a good product better then make something from scratch. in most cases they have solved most of the engineering problems allready.
 
CyberSniper said:
My electric line locks will last longer than my batteries. It takes like 18 hours to kill my batteries enough so it wouldn't start... but the linelocks were still holding. If you're going to be parked more than overnight you should be using some kind of mechanical anti roll device to stop it. IE: not mechanical or hydraulic brakes. Leaving your vented rotors clamped or your drums expanded for extended periods of time isn't the best. I wouldn't worry about solid rotors.

CyberSniper,
For what you're probably doing with the line-lock I think the park-lock would be a better option as it uses the hydro pressure to hold the seal. But, you've already got the line-lock....

Just in case there's some confusion: Line-locks use battery power to hold pressure in the system downstream of the valve. When/if the voltage drops low enough the valve will open and the brakes will cease to hold the truck. As CyberSniper noted though, this will take a long time if your battery(ies) are any good.

The Mico-Lock (oft erroneously written "Micro-Lock") only uses battery power to engage the valve, not to hold it closed like the line-locks do.

The Park-lock I linked above works like the Mico-Lock except that it has a button you hold down rather than having a solenoid. Engagement is: step on brake pedal, push in button, take foot off brake, let go of button. That closes the valve. Stepping on the brake again w/o holding the button down releases the brakes. No idea what a line-lock costs these days, but the Park-Lock was listed @ $31.00
 
Keep in mind also tha there is alot of heavy equipment that uses drivline e-brakes. We have a aircraft tug here that uses one, im going to try to get an idea for mine off that system, looks fairley simple. Im am going to try to see if i can get a exploded view of it off the maint manul. and post it up here.
 
Most of the equipment ones I've seen are drums mounted to the output shaft. Big and heavy.
 
nope, both of our tug's here have mech. disk brakes. Im going to bring my camera to work tomorrw and take pictures of both the setups, i just went out side and crawled under the smaller one, it looks like it would be pretty easy to adatp one to our trucks. I am going to do some reasearch to see ho much these systems go for.
the one tug weighs 43,000lbs so im pretty shure the stopping power would be more than enought for one of our trucks :eek1:
 
surpip said:
Keep in mind also tha there is alot of heavy equipment that uses drivline e-brakes. We have a aircraft tug here that uses one, im going to try to get an idea for mine off that system, looks fairley simple. Im am going to try to see if i can get a exploded view of it off the maint manul. and post it up here.

The caliper that Jess used in the 205 e-brake is from an aircraft tug.

You might want to take a look at this
http://www.hayesbrake.com/pdf/2002-HayesBrakeCatalog.pdf
 
ya i just call northwestern, they make our tugs, the caliper for the smaller tug loaded is 278 bucks, and that dosent include the bracket or the disk, so you may be getting off cheap buying the one from Jess,
Plus he is a kick ass dude and his stuff rocks anyway :D
(please give me a free shaft) :haha: :haha: :haha: :D
 
You can find the caliper listed alone on all pro offroad for $89 if you want to try it yourself.

In future we may come up with somthing that bolts directly to the stock system without fiddling, we just have a million things on the go right now and it isnt top priority.
 
glad you guys posted up, its good to see people that are really interested in making things that people like us are really interested in gettting!!!
Plus your guys's fab skills are super badass, I would be interested to see what you come up with.
ill have pictures from work tomorrow.
 
surpip said:
both of our tug's here have mech. disk brakes. Im going to bring my camera to work tomorrw and take pictures of both the setups, i just went out side and crawled under the smaller one, it looks like it would be pretty easy to adatp one to our trucks. I am going to do some reasearch to see ho much these systems go for.
the one tug weighs 43,000lbs...
Let me guess... The smaller tug is an A/S32A-42A, and the bigger tug is called a "Buddha". I can't remember the designation for it, even though I was licensed on it...
 
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jarheadk5 said:
Let me guess... The smaller tug is an A/S32A-42A, and the bigger tug is called a "Buddha". I can't remember the designation for it, even though I was licensed on it...
we used to have the 32a-42a in prowlers, but here we have the 32A-30A, pretty much the same thing but a little smaller, and it has a cab, and ya we got the Budda to :D
I forgot my camera though, so it will have to wait till tomorrow
 
big pappa b said:
I found the prices listed on his page. It's under "driveline cutting brakes"
http://highangledriveline.com/driveline_e-brake-cutting%20brake.htm

The kit in most applications is the e-brake kit pricing at 269.00 (includes laser cut rotor - and caliper (mechanical) and laser cut cnc bent bracket ) and you also need our patented flange off the t-case to hook it up for 109.00-


looks like its $378 with their patented flange that you have to have to mount it .
 
here are the pictures of our tugs at work.:
this sucker weighs 43,000LBS and pulls out 328,000lbs aircraft like it was nothing
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here is how the e-brake is hooked up:
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the rotor is like 12" dia. so im not shure it would fit under our trucks, but you could use the bracket and caliper
this tug is a little smaller :D we use it to pull around our power carts and stuff like that:
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here is its e-brake:
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this one should fit niceley under the truck,
hopefully this will give people some ideas, and mabye if there is a DRMO near your house, you could actually find something like this, also, airports use a version of the smaller tug to, might be a good place to look also
 
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