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I could use some help. swapped engine.
- Thread starter xsmokey11499x
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crawdaddy
1/2 ton status
If you installed the dizzy in the exhaust stroke instead of the compression stroke it would be out 180*
xsmokey11499x
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well I did what was advised to me on Ck5. pull the #1 plug, hold your finger on the hole, Crank the motor till your finger gets pushed off.. Then drop the dizzy in, And Crank it till it reaches 0* on the Marker.so i was wondering if maybe the timing is still wrong, tahts why there is no spark?
crawdaddy
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Yes that is correct but get it to TDC before dropping in the dizzy.
xsmokey11499x
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Yes that's what I did. But still nothing
so.. idk what to do now.. Grab the matches and gallon of gas ehh
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
Tap the starter till the number one cylinder pops your finger off with compression, THEN rotate the engine by hand to line up the marks on the timing tab, it should already be close, THEN drop the distributor, the rotor should be pointing towards the number one cylinder, if the distributor does not drop completely, bump the starter till it does, this seats the oil pump tab, then i always like to recheck everything afterward...
Recheck the compression with the finger, and see where the distributor rotor points, start running your spark plug wires at that number one terminal and it should fire up right away.
Recheck the compression with the finger, and see where the distributor rotor points, start running your spark plug wires at that number one terminal and it should fire up right away.
crawdaddy
1/2 ton status
Do you have another coil u could try?
crawdaddy
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This seems wrong you shouldn't be getting an arc from the block to the ps pump just cause its leaning on it. Still sounds like a short.
xsmokey11499x
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http://img405.imageshack.us/i/24919822.png/
Is that right for the plug wires?
No I don't have another coil I can try.
When I popped the starter. and finger blew off of the #1 plug hole. The marks were about 90* Off. once lined up. I dropped the Dizzy in. And with some Pulling back out. and dropping in. It tended to line up Pretty close to the #1 cylinder
what do you mean by run my wires at that #1 terminal?
Is that right for the plug wires?
No I don't have another coil I can try.
When I popped the starter. and finger blew off of the #1 plug hole. The marks were about 90* Off. once lined up. I dropped the Dizzy in. And with some Pulling back out. and dropping in. It tended to line up Pretty close to the #1 cylinder
what do you mean by run my wires at that #1 terminal?
xsmokey11499x
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and short where. from the starter leading back up?
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
number 1 terminal, is where ever the rotor is pointing after you get the piston to TDC.
your balancer was 90* off from the tab when the compression hit??
was the balancer line up torwards facing top, like looking through the water pump space, looking down from top?
xsmokey11499x
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Yeah I believe so. about 90*
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
was the balancer mark, pointing towards the passenger side, or facing straight up? which way, if you look at the motor from the front, and in comparison to a clock,,, what "time" was the balancer facing?
xsmokey11499x
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Alright. Say the Marker on the timing chain cover is at oh.. about 2 O clock.
Id say the Groove on the Balancer was at about 10 o clock?
but I might be wrong. Could be different. Just what I remember.
Id say the Groove on the Balancer was at about 10 o clock?
but I might be wrong. Could be different. Just what I remember.
4xcrazy
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well either that may possibly be the wrong balancer, of the outter ring has slilpped, this is an older unit?
just for kick, do not rotate the engine by hand to line up those marks, do the finger pop deal, drop the ditstribuor in, go from there, it should be at least close enough to fire up, if not, you're closer than you are now.
i think....
just for kick, do not rotate the engine by hand to line up those marks, do the finger pop deal, drop the ditstribuor in, go from there, it should be at least close enough to fire up, if not, you're closer than you are now.
i think....
xsmokey11499x
1/2 ton status
okay. so pull the #1 plug, do the whole finger pop. drop dizzy in, Put plug and plugwire back on. Then Just run my wires from wherever the rotor is facing? IE if its at 12'oclock my #1 would be at 12'oclock?
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
If you set the piston to TDC, with the tapping/cranking of the motor, with your finger (pop), THAT should be TDC, do not look at the balancer, drop the dist in, facing the rotor to number one, run the wires from that number one terminal and try and fire it up, it may not run all that great if it does start, but should get going. If it doesn't right away, move the distributor in small increments back and forth.
i'm thinkin your timing is way off, perhaps an issue with the balancer.
technically, and i have argued over this before on here, you don't NEED to set the rotor to facing number one cylinder, as long as you start running the wires with number one wire from whever the rotor was facing at the TDC position...
I just like to do it like it was done originally,
but disregard this stuff till you at least get it running.
i'm thinkin your timing is way off, perhaps an issue with the balancer.
technically, and i have argued over this before on here, you don't NEED to set the rotor to facing number one cylinder, as long as you start running the wires with number one wire from whever the rotor was facing at the TDC position...
I just like to do it like it was done originally,
but disregard this stuff till you at least get it running.
xsmokey11499x
1/2 ton status
If you set the piston to TDC, with the tapping/cranking of the motor, with your finger (pop), THAT should be TDC, do not look at the balancer, drop the dist in, facing the rotor to number one, run the wires from that number one terminal and try and fire it up, it may not run all that great if it does start, but should get going. If it doesn't right away, move the distributor in small increments back and forth.
i'm thinkin your timing is way off, perhaps an issue with the balancer.
technically, and i have argued over this before on here, you don't NEED to set the rotor to facing number one cylinder, as long as you start running the wires with number one wire from whever the rotor was facing at the TDC position...
I just like to do it like it was done originally,
but disregard this stuff till you at least get it running.
okay I did that, and it sounded like the Motor was cranking faster.. But then my battery went dead about 5 seconds afterwards. still didnt Startup though. even sprayed starting fluid
Also. The balancer was My old balancer off of the block also. so i think it should be fine, I'm still leaning towards timing also.
and if Really really bad timing will cause no spark. then thats my problem.
and idk how set the timing very well. Or even work on the motor much. I have came quite a ways. and Learned alot along the way.
but not quite done yet
4xcrazy
3/4 ton status
is this a totally different engine? what exactly have you done, rebuild or replace
