newoldscottsdale77;3454159 Your in rock bouncer territory! Dont get me wrong I love the build so far said:well, this isn't a full blown bouncer, but it is its intended purpose. I would rather be a little long and have 90 degree front and rear and be flat belly than be short and miss out on that stuff. I could have moved the front axle back when doing the spring mounts and cut off the end of the frame but then I would have no room for my winch.

