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jack stand question

When I'm swapping axles (done it three times, now), I use two blocks stacked up (holes vertical, of course), a piece of plywood on top of them and then a jack stand set as low as feasible on top of the plywood. Plywood is better because it doesn't split like solid wood and the feet of the stands sink into the first ply to keep it from moving around.

For placement, I support it directly in front of the forward spring bracket on the rear axle and just behind the shackle on the front axle.

Rock solid, even when torquing the spring u-bolts.
 
diesel4me said:
I'd never trust any sort of concrete block or bricks to support something I'm going to be working under--those who have and gotten away with it are just plain LUCKY...not saying they wont work,they do--but they CAN shatter without warning when subjected to "point loads"--like when only a small portion is supporting lots of weight,like a bolt that happens to stick out and touch the blocks surface and has to support most of the weight on that one spot,can cause it to crack or shatter..on a boat this likely isn't a problem,you have a full flat surface for the blocks to rest on,so failure is less likely..but you wont see me crawling under one supported by cement blocks..no thanks!:crazy:
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Yup Bob, I'm an idiot who has no clue.... Yet you and your junkyard genius friends are almost killing yourselves...

"point load"... Please.... :rolleyes:

Anyone putting a framerail down on a bare block, without wood to displace the load across the surface of the block, is almost as stupid as all these Ebob's that obviously don't know the difference between crumbly cinder and a good concrete block...

Whatever boys, try thinking outside your own little existence some time... :mad:

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Today at work i got some 1x12s out of of the scrap pile, then when i got home i screwed them together 5 high. But it is not very wide im not sure im going to use it i think i need to get something wider.
 
RootBreaker said:
where are you putting the jack stands?
I always just put them under the axles and my normal stands work just fine....

however I uses alot of stands... in addition I leave the jack under too...

years ago I had the truck fall on my head.. I should be dead but I placed a block near the truck and when it fell over... 1 of my 8 lugnuts cought the corner of the brick and held the truck up.... so I am now a SAFETY, SAFETY, SAFETY kinda guy...

I was 17 when that happened... now im 34 so whatever you do.. BE CAREFULL!!!!:crazy:
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Im going to put them under the frame for when i do my shackle flip.
 
goldwing2000 said:
When I'm swapping axles (done it three times, now), I use two blocks stacked up (holes vertical, of course), a piece of plywood on top of them and then a jack stand set as low as feasible on top of the plywood. Plywood is better because it doesn't split like solid wood and the feet of the stands sink into the first ply to keep it from moving around.

For placement, I support it directly in front of the forward spring bracket on the rear axle and just behind the shackle on the front axle.

Rock solid, even when torquing the spring u-bolts.
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EXACTLY. You'll gain multiple factors of safety, the thicker the plywood. Two blocks side by side, holes up, under the stand (at low), with the Pwood under the stand. Four blocks under another Pwood, beneath that if you're rig is jacked too high.:D
 
ryoken said:
Yup Bob, I'm an idiot who has no clue.... Yet you and your junkyard genius friends are almost killing yourselves...

"point load"... Please.... :rolleyes:

Anyone putting a framerail down on a bare block, without wood to displace the load across the surface of the block, is almost as stupid as all these Ebob's that obviously don't know the difference between crumbly cinder and a good concrete block...

Whatever boys, try thinking outside your own little existence some time... :mad:

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HOLY SH!T RYOKEN, simmer down a bit. We all understand that the cement blocks have worked for you in the past and that's just great. The rest of us are just pointing out what has worked for us and what we feel is the best and safest option. By the way the boats above in the pics are sitting to be sold and no one is wrenching on them. The boats that people are work on are usually supported by huge steel screw jacks that are rated 20/40/60 tons. Accidents can happen at anytime and we are just trying to minimize that anytime issue. Now go have a beer and wrench under your 6000# blazer supported by cinder blocks made in Tiajuana, Mexico!!!:shame:
 
roadnotca said:
Bottom line, once you've got it up off the ground, jack released, give it a good shove; see if it falls.:bow:
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lol...that's what I did after I got mine jacked up...walked around the truck shaking it really hard to see what would happen.
 
just pay 150 bucks and get some 10 ton jacks .. i did about 2 years ago and i am glad i did .... they go from 40" to 68" or somthing crazy like that ... when i put them on framerail i cannot shake the truck side to side at all ... built 3 trucks now using them ... you have to use a 60" hig lift or a car hoist to limit the height on them
 
Big Blzn said:
HOLY SH!T RYOKEN, simmer down a bit. We all understand that the cement blocks have worked for you in the past and that's just great. The rest of us are just pointing out what has worked for us and what we feel is the best and safest option. By the way the boats above in the pics are sitting to be sold and no one is wrenching on them. The boats that people are work on are usually supported by huge steel screw jacks that are rated 20/40/60 tons. Accidents can happen at anytime and we are just trying to minimize that anytime issue. Now go have a beer and wrench under your 6000# blazer supported by cinder blocks made in Tiajuana, Mexico!!!:shame:
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Don't tell me to simmer down noob... :surepal:

And hey, thanks for explaining that pic to me. Good thing your a boat expert... I never would have known, considering I took the pic! Or that they are my customers boats that I shrunk wrap! It's winter storage, not a "for sale" lot....

Btw,. you have no freakin clue anyway.. Thats exactly how boats sit and have there bottoms worked on.. I've spent days under said boats grinding glass, etc..

Considering we put 150,000 pd boats on a 10 point block system, I'm not worried about it... For you math impaired, thats 15,000 lbs per stack.. But in actuality, the keel blocks can take upwards of 30,000... Far more than the, maybe, 2000 pds any one corner of a truck may be..

I'm really getting annoyed at the fact that people that don't know, think they know, are implying that I'm doing something unsafe... Trust me, when you play with 75 ton stuff, you don't mess around...
 
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No offense intended!..

I didn't mean for it to sound like you were giving bad advice Ryoken!...the concrete blocks you use do the job for you on the boats just fine I guess..they also hold up buildings weighing many tons too!--but I would not trust them to hold up a truck,I've seen too many crumble into dust without warning..no matter what kind they were,or who made them..

I've seen enough horror stories in the paper about someone getting crushed under a vehicle when cement blocks crumbled..one guy I went to school with died under a '65 Mustang when the car fell off the jack,and cement blocks under it crumbled about 10 years ago..wife found him crushed under the car when she got home from work,and she's never gotten over his death...

Yeah,we did take a lot of stupid chances when we cut up cars at the junkyard,but we also lived to tell about it..God was watching over us more than once I'll admit..I'm suprised we never got hurt or killed,looking back on some of the stuff we did...

I'm old enough to know what we did was not intelligent,but sometimes you have no choice but to do it whatever way you can..that does not mean its OK to do things in an unsafe manner though,even if you get away with it a few times without incident..only takes once to kill ya!..

Lets not let this get ugly--I have my way of doing things,you have yours--to each his own,neither of us are "right" or "wrong"..I'm sorry if my post offended you,that was not my intent at all..:doah:
 
ryoken said:
Don't tell me to simmer down noob... :surepal:

And hey, thanks for explaining that pic to me. Good thing your a boat expert... I never would have known, considering I took the pic! Or that they are my customers boats that I shrunk wrap! It's winter storage, not a "for sale" lot....

Btw,. you have no freakin clue anyway.. Thats exactly how boats sit and have there bottoms worked on.. I've spent days under said boats grinding glass, etc..

Considering we put 150,000 pd boats on a 10 point block system, I'm not worried about it... For you math impaired, thats 15,000 lbs per stack.. But in actuality, the keel blocks can take upwards of 30,000... Far more than the, maybe, 2000 pds any one corner of a truck may be..

I'm really getting annoyed at the fact that people that don't know, think they know, are implying that I'm doing something unsafe... Trust me, when you play with 75 ton stuff, you don't mess around...
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Hey Ryoken, Simmer Down! Go ahead and use your little cement blocks but do us all a favor. When your truck or boat crashes down on your hot tempered little head don't have your significant other start a thread telling us about your unfortunate accident. Know one wants to see anyone get hurt or worse but, jesus christ, learn to take some constructive criticism whether you agree with the advise or not. Stop being so butt hurt after every post:D
 
Ya know what? F you dude, seriously..

You think you know sh*t, and you have no clue... Works been done in that yard and many others that way for 30+ years accident-free...

It's not constructive criticism, it's ignorant criticism... I'm just trying to enlighten you, but thats not doable apparently...

Butthurt? Nope, but a vengeful mofo I am, and I'll be sure to remember this convo when your on here asking for help.. Congrats and welcome to CK5...
 
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ryoken said:
Ya know what? F you dude, seriously..

You think you know sh*t, and you have no clue... Works been done in that yard and many others that way for 30+ years accident-free...

It's not constructive criticism, it's ignorant criticism... I'm just trying to enlighten you, but thats not doable apparently...

Butthurt? Nope, but a vengeful mofo I am, and I'll be sure to remember this convo when your on here asking for help.. Congrats and welcome to CK5...
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Simmer Down, again! Sure looks like you need the closest post office to go and shoot up. Jersey boy, you sure have a pleasant way of enlightening people. You want to be vengeful Jersey boy? I love to play games with people like you. Oh, by the way, I typically win these type of games. And one more thing Wood is probably a better choice than cinder block. :D
 
Hey asshat, try rereading my original post, nothing but helping the guy out... Then I get rocket scientists like you quoting me, showing typical close-minded stereotyping because of some wivestale you've heard about... Just telling you you may not know, what you think you know.

Jersey boy? Is that your attempt at being an E-bully? Ooooh, I'm quaking in my internet boots.... Bring it....
 
:haha: Hey guys...I'm back if anyone cares...looks like ya'll have found another noob to play with...rofl...play nice...
 
Hmm, should I take my toys and go home? Or play nice? :thinking:

Hmm, it's fun being bad, but I'll refrain.... For the sake of Can Can's ulcer to be... :doah:

Now where'd I put that noob bashing stick? :thinking: :wink1:
 
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