it does indicate worn body mounts. having worn mounts doesn't allow the body to contribute to frame strength as much, so your frame flexes a bit more than usual which makes it more prone to cracking. beings that our frames are riveted they are made to take some twist, but it does have limits.
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K10 Back-half Revamp! **posted wheelin' pics**
- Thread starter Avery4jc
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It's not flexing as much as the rear (obviously) but it's flexing a couple inches... the driver's side tire was about 1/2" away from kissing the wheelwell...
Plus look at the passenger side, doesn't look like it does at ride height to me...
I'm seeing very little frame flex there. I think you're good to rock it as is. The amount of body/frame/mount flex I'm seeing in this picture is minimal at best. granted, there's no bed on the back, but from what you can see of the front bumper - you have hardly any issue with it. You can also see plenty of lean/flex in the rear suspension by way of how the rear bumper is tilted. looks good.
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theblackmonky
Registered Member
box the frame or plan on doing it on another frame after you mess up yours and have to swap all your stuff, it only takes like a week, well worth it
theblackmonky
Registered Member
as soon as driver side front hits a rock at the same time passenger rear hits a rock of any decent size your frame will crack or bend, but like i said if you dont plan on doing any real trails you should be fine
FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
We are going to hit some hard trails up here this summer and I can assure you his truck is not going to break and fold in half.
There will be a couple feet of tube on this thing before we are done
There will be a couple feet of tube on this thing before we are done
FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
I have been doing stuff like in this pic for a looong time,my frame aint boxed and I aint killed it yet 
theblackmonky
Registered Member
thats cool iv just bent every frame untill i boxed mine then it never happened again. went through 3 frames in under 2 years but i beat mine up pretty good. try going to the hammers and see if you leave with a straight frame:}
FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
FRIZZLEFRY
1/2 ton status
Tha Hammers is fun 
I drove out of this
I drove out of this
theblackmonky
Registered Member
cool
I was going to reply...did you just tell Frizz to try the hammers?Looks good Avery. I read you were going to run Bald as a shakedown run? It's a cool trail, but fairly easy when it's dry. It's a blast in the snow!
II think besides swapping in softer springs you could also just try moving the shackle hangar up a couple inches like the 52" swap and add some 6 or 7" shackles. It will give you an optimum shackle angle that will allow you to get more flex out of those springs plus you'll have one step done if you wanna do 52's in the future
I'm not normally like this because I know everyone has to start somewhere on a forum but being that you have no history here...
Post pics or shut it!
I'm tired of guys coming on spreading bad tech because of here-say knowledge... it's like guys post up stuff like...
"oh yeah my cousin's brother's third aunt's ex-husband once had a truck that broke the frame in half thus all frames will break in half so you better box it or else!"
Might sound stupid but hopefully you catch my drift.
II think besides swapping in softer springs you could also just try moving the shackle hangar up a couple inches like the 52" swap and add some 6 or 7" shackles. It will give you an optimum shackle angle that will allow you to get more flex out of those springs plus you'll have one step done if you wanna do 52's in the future
I haven't even touched the front yet... I have a whole slew of stuff brainstorming in my head for what I want to do... but for now I'm focusing my energy and money out back.
I got some work done tonight... I had my dad on hand which was nice, and the dog which was not so nice... she always wants to be where I need to be standing.
I got stuff mocked up and wrote down what hardware I need so in the morning I'll go grab some grade 8 bolts and get it bolted up.
I also got the rear bumper pulled off... I'm going to get my new stop/turn/tail LED lights wired up tomorrow then drive it over to Frizz's place to torch the hitch off since it's welded on.
theblackmonky
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lol if i could post pics i would, id show you cracks and broken frames, not my fault you think your s.it dont stink
www.photobucket.com
Problem solved.
Where did you crack/break your frames? My frame is in great shape and I put an ORD frame brace in the front to help stiffen up the known weak place around the steering box. I think with some tube I'll be fine.
theblackmonky
Registered Member
cab side just behind the front shock mounts. when that was braced up the next cracks were infront of the rear leafs cab side, not really cracks more like rips
OK. Quit the bitching. It's annoying. If you're right, and he cracks his frame, that sucks. If not, then that's great. But your bitching is annoying. You're about the only person to post on CK5 with problems of the kind you're describing. His mind is made up, as is the minds of almost all of the other guys in this thread. So, your bitching isn't helping. It's annoying. Stop it.
Avery - I'm not really liking the gussets on your shock tabs. Looks like you made the tabs out of real thick material, so you're likely ok, but I'd MUCH rather see a gusset that goes along the edge of the tab, making a 90* with the tab. The tab you've built is still prone to failing in the same plane as your tab, where as if you made a tab that looked like a L or a [ shape, you'd have lateral strength in 2 planes rather than just the one.
Yeah I wasn't really sure what to do and I had about 45 minutes at lunch yesterday to whip something up so that's what I made...
I'm thinking that when the tube project starts my shocks might move but to be honest I'm not sure. The shake-down run at Bald will show me the truck's weak spots
I like what you're saying though so if I end up keeping them here maybe I'll mill some new u-bolt plates with some integrated tabs.
Fabrimacator21
1/2 ton status
I wouldn't worry about it. From the looks of it, they are already over built. It'd take a HELL OF A LOT to fock those up. The shock shaft would bend before the tabs broke.
I don't see a need for a "edge" gusset. I'd be VERY suprised if those pulled off without a gusset at all. Shock mounts don't see near enough abuse to break or bend those.
As long as the welds are decent your good.
Hey Noob... read more, talk less. 
This isn't Pirate4x4 and if you've come here with an attitude that it is you won't last long.
Everyone is welcome to share their opinions, but the forum culture here is a lot more "tolerant" than other sites.... love it or leave it. As you've already learned the hard way, until you've been here a while it's hard to know who you're really talking to, or what sort of wheeling experience they have. Preaching about how to build a truck to a top-notch fabricator (and wheeler) like Frizzlefry just makes you sound like an ass.
theblackmonky
Registered Member
dont make me cry tuff guy, like you said you have no idea who you are talking to. lol
