LMC 4 headlight harness upgrade + Painless low + high headlight kit setup questions

[AJMBLAZER]

Anyone have both the Eurolights AND the LMC lights? Now that I sit down and look them over the cost savings isn't a terribly large amount by buying through Eurolights and they appear to be damn near the same product.

Might just go with LMC since I'm ordering other stuff from them.

Eurolights says "metal housing" and LMC says aluminum. Wondering if they're the same thing completely...?

 

[Blue85]

Is 4 headlights legal? With dual-filament bulbs you could have 2 lows and 4 highs or 4 lows and 4 highs.

Why not go for broke then and just do this?

 

[bot0611]

Search ebay for them i got a pair with blue 100W bulbs for around $40 shipped cheapper than LMC and they look a bit better, also the LMC wiring harness well i didnt trust it that much did my own wiring.

I got a pair of LMC's and a pair of ebays on my truck, they are a nice improvement.

 

[motorman629]

AJM, thanks for clearing that up. My trucks an 86, my buddies an 84, and they both have the dual headlight setup. If i had just read your sig and saw that your K5 is an 89, i might not have had to ask that stupid question I worked on a 90 burb the other day at work and changed the low beams. just to replacement sealed beam bulbs, nuttin fancy.

 

[AJMBLAZER]

Is 4 headlights legal? With dual-filament bulbs you could have 2 lows and 4 highs or 4 lows and 4 highs.

Why not go for broke then and just do this?

I think as long as you're under the wattage limit per bulb they don't care. Then again sorta like lift laws everything is subjective.

bot, did you get housings and bulbs or just bulbs?

Not too worried about the LMC harness though. Enough guys on here running it that I'm not concerned about it bursting into flames. We'd have heard if it did.

 

[bot0611]

Housing and bulbs (blue bulbs 100W)

autopal brand, work great they bulbs are like H1 type. tryed to find the guy but couldnt.

Just a bit of triming on the headlight housing in order to get it to fit properly and done.

 

[dremu]

BTW, after you do the relay mod, having the highs and lows come on together is ridiculously easy, and the one diode you need is less than $2 at Radio Shack.

Even for the electrically afraid, it is NOT worth the $20+ that the kit would cost you.

When you're putting in the relay setup, ping me and I'll walk ya through it.

-- A

 

[bot0611]

For the high and low beams i used the stock switch on the floor, ran one wire through it and when pushed walla high beams.

 

[AJMBLAZER]

Housing and bulbs (blue bulbs 100W)

autopal brand, work great they bulbs are like H1 type. tryed to find the guy but couldnt.

Just a bit of triming on the headlight housing in order to get it to fit properly and done.

Metal housing or plastic?

BTW, after you do the relay mod, having the highs and lows come on together is ridiculously easy, and the one diode you need is less than $2 at Radio Shack.

Even for the electrically afraid, it is NOT worth the $20+ that the kit would cost you.

When you're putting in the relay setup, ping me and I'll walk ya through it.

-- A

Will do. All this stuff I've been talking about lately is just waiting on the arrival of a check.

For the high and low beams i used the stock switch on the floor, ran one wire through it and when pushed walla high beams.

Floor switch...your truck older and has the floor switch for high and low?
That said I guess I don't see the point...unless you created high, low, and high + low at that point?

 

[bot0611]

Hold up, what year is your truck??

 

[AJMBLAZER]

I'm so confused.

First off no, I'm not going to build/upgrade the headlight harness myself. Me + wiring = fail/fire. At $30 I can afford to buy LMC's kit.

LMC says for the 89-91 trucks with the four rectangular headlights like mine that you can only run their Eurolights. Anyone know why? I'm thinking about doing that conversion anyways but uhm, just wondering why they say that for these years only but not for the other trucks.

Okay, wtf is a Eurolight? Xenon...that's the gas in them, right? Anybody know where else to get this stuff other than LMC? Sometimes their prices seem a bit high.

Lastly, in my '92 Blazer there was a way to convert the headlights so the low beams came on when the high beams were turned on. How do you do that with these trucks? Same Painless/Summit kit?

For the record my '84/'86 CUCV doesn't have the floor switch either.

 

[blazerbones]

BTW, after you do the relay mod, having the highs and lows come on together is ridiculously easy

I didn't even use any wire... just jumpered the high to low beam power wires by jamming the diode terminals in the plugs. Took approximately 20 seconds including opening the hood, so maybe that makes up for it being totally ghetto.

 

[blazerbones]

On my '92 it was basically just a matter of joining the two wires. I think there was a relay involved but don't remember. Just made sure when the power went to the highs it also got routed to the lows.

I'm thinking these can't be much different, especially since the 89-91 V series headlights are pretty much the same as the 88-91 C/K series.

If you upgrade to headlamp relays with the LMC harness, you'll be using one side of the factory harness/plug as signal inputs for the relays. A low amp diode pointing from high beam hot to low beam hot will work in this application.

Accomplishing this with a relay is not much more complicated... but more expensive and time consuming.

If you just jumper them with a wire, you will have all 4 lamps on whenever your lights are on.

 

[Blue85]

But the point of the relays is to make the lights brighter by reducing voltage drop. Powering a bulb through a diode has the opposite effect - it reduces the voltage to the bulb. You should at least use a schottky.

 

[RockinChevy]

You should at least use a schottky.

We should use a what?

I googled the word and it mentions an unoccupied position caused by relocation of a certain atom or ion.

Unless you have another meaning for the word? Never too late to learn a new word every day.

 

[Mountain_man]

I've looked everywhere and can't find any other place that sells the same headlights as a suburban's quad light. Anyone find something that I'm missing? '91 sub share headlights with other vehicles?

 

[4xcrazy]

I've looked everywhere and can't find any other place that sells the same headlights as a suburban's quad light. Anyone find something that I'm missing? '91 sub share headlights with other vehicles?

seen some certain model year of the Jeep Cherokee or something using those smaller rectangle headlights too.

 

[dremu]

But the point of the relays is to make the lights brighter by reducing voltage drop. Powering a bulb through a diode has the opposite effect - it reduces the voltage to the bulb. You should at least use a schottky.

No no no.

You use the diode to energize the coil of the low beam's relay. The relay then transmits full voltage to the low beams.

Not like you're gonna get 10A through a 1N4001

-- A

 

[4xcrazy]

and as far as just jumping the wire from the high beam to the low bean, to activate the low beam while highs are on, i believe all you are doing is adding current load to that circuit doing this,,,sure it works, but at what cost to the fuse box or wiring circuitry..

I bought the fairly cheap kit awhile back for my Burb, it was a few wires with the relay plug, and directions on how to hook it up. Basically it hooks both the high beam and low beam together, but only uses the high beam wire as a trigger for the relay, the relay kicks on, and pulls power directly from the battery to power the low beam. keeping the original circuitry at it's original amperage useage.

it works great too, much better visability, still have yet to do it to the '94.

i mainly bought the kit so i could get detailed driections and the right connectors and whatnot for a clean looking add-on.

 

[bigdogkrug]

Dremu, I wanna do that diode thing you mentioned to get the low beams on with the hi beams. Can you help me get it installed? I live in Newark so I'm close to Concord.

Jerad