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Looking to put a stereo in a M1009. Cheap as possible

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So I have finally gotten tired of not having a stereo in my M1009. So I want to put one in but as cheap and easy as possible. I am planning on putting dash speakers in the stock location and then Im going to mount an ammo can on each side of the truck somewhere around the wheel well (in front, behind or on top off) With a speaker mounted in each. Here's the catch. I dont really want to mount a head unit in the dash. I dont use CDs or the radio, just my iPod. Is there some small amp that I can plug my iPod straight into and then run speakers from that? I might want to add a sub later but not at the current moment.

Any help is much appreciated
 
Well, where you put it is up to you but Walmart sells a special Dual brand head unit that has no CD player but does have all kinds of media inputs. USB, aux, MicroSD (or maybe SD?) card. No clock but it gets radio signals. $40 and we put one in my buddy's wife's car. Works nice and the neat thing is since it doesn't take CD's it's about half as deep as a CD playing radio.

The rest you can figure out. I did Big Ugly myself a few years ago. Wasn't hard, I just had to learn as I went. I have a diagram of the CUCV fuse box at home if you want it. I THINK I've posted it on here before.

Also, I ended up rewiring my stereo so it was on a switch. That way I could run the radio without having to cycle the glow plugs since all CUCV's that I've seen don't have a ACC position on the ignition switch.
 
Well, where you put it is up to you but Walmart sells a special Dual brand head unit that has no CD player but does have all kinds of media inputs. USB, aux, MicroSD (or maybe SD?) card. No clock but it gets radio signals. $40 and we put one in my buddy's wife's car. Works nice and the neat thing is since it doesn't take CD's it's about half as deep as a CD playing radio.

The rest you can figure out. I did Big Ugly myself a few years ago. Wasn't hard, I just had to learn as I went. I have a diagram of the CUCV fuse box at home if you want it. I THINK I've posted it on here before.

Also, I ended up rewiring my stereo so it was on a switch. That way I could run the radio without having to cycle the glow plugs since all CUCV's that I've seen don't have a ACC position on the ignition switch.
Thanks for the help. I will search for that diagram later today unless you wanna post a link for me? I didn't even think about wiring it to a switch. I would definitly like to do that. Maybe I can even hook the radio up to one of my 10ft military antennas and get radio stations from foreign countries :D
 
Eh, here it is. I'll just post it again. I pay the membership for a reason.

Good thought on the antenna. I used one of those hidden antennas and it didn't work terribly well. Ended up just leaving it hanging from the visor and it got some signal then.

I used fuse taps so I could power the radio through the fuse block but it is a PITA to find the correct taps anymore (buried DEEP in the NAPA BIG parts book back in 2007). Now I'd just run both wires to the power block on the firewall between the GP Controller and the master cylinder.

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Let me know how it goes man. I was thinking about getting one for The Blazer but I REALLY like HD radio now that I have it (the only hard/heavy metal/modern/etc rock station in Lexington is an HD only station).

Also, it doesn't show the time. FYI.
 
Well, no chance of getting the job or the low cost of living I have in your neck of the woods or frankly, most other big city areas.
 
big article on this over on steel soldiers. Heres what you do. Go to radio shack and get a y-rca cable. this will allow you to link your Ipod directly to any amplifier. geat an amp and mount it anywhere you choose, then connect speakers to it normally. connect cable to amp and run it somewhere that is inconspicuous. enjoy! When you get in the truck, plug in your ipod, and tunes will ensue.
 
big article on this over on steel soldiers. Heres what you do. Go to radio shack and get a y-rca cable. this will allow you to link your Ipod directly to any amplifier. geat an amp and mount it anywhere you choose, then connect speakers to it normally. connect cable to amp and run it somewhere that is inconspicuous. enjoy! When you get in the truck, plug in your ipod, and tunes will ensue.

Ok, so this is what I have decided to do. I already have the y-rca cable and I got a gift certificate to Crutchfield for xmas. Its time to do this! So I want to just order everything from crutchfield to make it as easy as possible. Plan is: 2 dash speakers in the stock location, If I order through crutchfield they include the correct brackets. Small amp mounted in a tall ammo can that I have between the front seats. A oval speaker (prolly 4x6) mounted in a normal sized ammo can. One mounted on each rear wheel well.

Now, can I mount the amp inside an ammo can without it overheating? Also I need recommendations for speakers and amp. I'm a total noob when it comes to stereos, I have never installed one before
 
Dont go with crutchfield!! Go to WWW.ONLINECARSTEREO.COM the best dels and everything you want. Get a 5 or 6 channel amp and youll be able to control the level of all 4 of your normal speakers, and have 2 channels left to bridge for a sub later. dont worry about name brands. the kind of listening it sounds like you do almost all will be fine. I've ordered from them multiple times with no problems.

edit try the link again if it sends ya some where weird. I did it wrong the first time
 
Personally I'd do some 6.5" rounds in the rear. Have those in The Blazer and the sound is nice.

Honestly, I like my Dual brand headunit that people have sniffed at and my no-name speakers in the rear. The house brand at Walmart actually does really well also. Put a set of those in my buddy's wife's truck after her stockers blew and they sound great. FAR better than the stockers and honestly, quite good for $30. Speaker technology is speaker technology lately. The difference between the $75 Pioneer 2 way and the $35 Dual or brand X 2 way is the fancy name. You get higher end you will get better sound but then you're paying hundreds.

I like Crutchfield but sometimes they can be a bit difficult. Not a fan of their head unit install kit for our trucks (Scoshe junk) and their directions can be generic at times.
Still, if you don't know what you're doing they are very helpful and can have everything you need. People say they are over priced but I've always been happy with the price considering the support you receive. I needed a wiring diagram for my buddy's wife's Kia so I called their tech support line and the guy who answered sent me one via email. I didn't buy anything that day but he had no trouble doing it for me and it saved the day.
 
Alright, good info guys. I guess since I have the gift card I will order the dash speakers from Crutchfield so that I get the mounting brackets and the rest of the system I will get elsewhere. But do you think the amp will be ok? This is the same style ammo can that it will be mounted inside (stole this pic from ColbyStevens)
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Might ask in the Audio forum so the gurus can offer opinions. I know there's a lot of varying opinions on space to keep an amp from getting hot.

P.S. I think Walmart has some new stuff including an iPod dock from Dual. Might give it a looksie again. Just sayin'.
 
I used to do car stereo competitions, hence why I am partially deaf now, but here is my take:

1. Mounting the amp in an ammo can can cause overheating issues for larger amps IF you run it really loud all the time. Otherwise, not an issue. However, when someone breaks into your truck, it's going to make it very easy to steal. Yank on that box and I bet the metal can be broken easily.

I would suggest mounting it somewhere else, perhaps under the seat or dash (depending on the size). The other spot to mount an amp is inside the rear side panels.

If you are running from an iPod you only have a 2-channel stereo output. You do not need a 4+ channel amp. Buy a 2 channel amp. If you want to add a subwoofer, get a 3-channel or 4-3-2 channel amp (switchable) or get a powered sub and a 2 channel amp.

When I did my competition stuff, I used Alpine and Sony amps. They were excellent and I won several awards. :) Boston Acoustics has amps now too, and I trust them.

Remember, size does not matter so much with amps. Quality of components does. I used to have a $150 Sony amp which fit in my hand that was more than adequate for daily driving, and better than cheaper amps which were cheaper and "higher" in power. Crack open some of that cheap systems and you will realize you are paying for $10 in parts. Dual and other store brands are guilty of this. You are basically throwing your money away and giving them $75 of profit on an $80 amp. Spend the $100 and get something Sony, Alpine, or Boston. Especially since the truck is so noisy to begin with, you want something that will provide clear sound. This will prevent distortion which will fatigue your ears and give you headaches, and make it hard to listen to the radio for extended periods of time.

As far as speakers, I would recommend the following, in order of performance:

6" round front and rear (best quality)
6" round in front, 6x9 in rear (good quality, more bass)
5" round front and rear (okay quality, will lack bass)
3.5" round in dash and 4x10's in the rear (stock locations, no bass)

The trick is to OVER POWER your speakers. Distortion is caused by UNDER powering your speakers. Not enough power lets the speaker magnet go too far forward and back in the housing, hitting the end, which blows it up. While way too much power can blow a speaker, it's rare. I've only blown speakers using deck power only, never when amp'd. Therefore, get as much power in an amp as you can.

BTW, more power does not mean more volume, it means more clarity. If you want more volume, add more speakers. Each speaker adds about 3db to the system. A 10db increase doubles the volume. Larger speakers also add to volume. A 6" speaker has significantly more surface area than a 5" or 3.5" speaker, which means more volume.

A good set of 6" speakers installed in a proper enclosure (door, panel) which is sealed as best as possible, combined with a good high power amp can sound like you have 10" subwoofers in your car.

As far as speakers, you should go to a local store, put in your favorite song, and LISTEN to all the speakers. ALL of them, including the cheap ones. Listen to them with an amp that is similar to what you plan on buying.

There used to be a pair of Infinity speakers that were $80 which were simply unbelievable. I sold them to everyone when I worked at a car stereo shop, just by letting them listen to them. Not one set ever was returned, either. That was 15 years ago, though, so who knows what it good now. Go to all the car stereo shops you can find and listen to as many as you can.

Or buy Boston Acoustics. :)

If I were you, I would get the q-logic kick panel 6" speaker pods, and then mount another pair of 6" speakers in the rear side panels just about where the passengers knees are.

http://www.crutchfield.com/p_044C101110/Q-Forms-Kick-Panel-Enclosures-Red.html?search=q+logic

If you want component speakers (separate woofer & tweeter), get a set of 6" for the front ONLY.

If you want a simple subwoofer, Infinity makes a 10" powered one here:

http://www.crutchfield.com/s_108BASSLIN/Infinity-Basslink.html?tp=114

It's nice clean sound, and won't make you deaf. If you install it using carriage bolts through the body it makes it hard to be stolen (ask me how I know ... although it cost me a broken window, the sub remained!) but can be removed easily enough if needed. I put it where the spare tire was.

There are other options, and it all depends on your budget, but there you go. :)

Finally, as far as the antenna, 31" is the ideal length because that is the size of the FM radio wave. If you get a longer or shorter antenna, you will get WORSE reception!
 
Might ask in the Audio forum so the gurus can offer opinions. I know there's a lot of varying opinions on space to keep an amp from getting hot.

P.S. I think Walmart has some new stuff including an iPod dock from Dual. Might give it a looksie again. Just sayin'.
This is the Audio forum.....:doah:
 
Derp...yeah...


Jessie, he has a M1009...no interior panels.
 
Oh, I did not know that, I've never seen one of those inside.

What does the inside look like? maybe the kick panel pods are the best idea?
 
Oh, I did not know that, I've never seen one of those inside.

What does the inside look like? maybe the kick panel pods are the best idea?
I will try and get some pics later. I have seen thos kick panel pods but do they interfer with the floor vents? I absolutely love those vents and won't get rid of them
 
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