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mercedes washer heater in k5?

FWIW, these are what I was talking about: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-...Parts_Accessories&hash=item5d3b67e235&vxp=mtr

And they do get painfully warm to the touch. They are also chinese, so they could either burn your truck to the ground, or stop working within .5mS of firing them up the first time.


i like this. i can take the two of them and wrap them around the stock bottle i just got, and put some of this bubble wrap aluminum backed insulation stuff . for the price i think im going to see what the polaris dealer has in stock.
 
This may be a stupid question, but could you just drop them in the tank itself?

For anyone that can comment on that, they supposedly draw about 10W.
 
This may be a stupid question, but could you just drop them in the tank itself?

For anyone that can comment on that, they supposedly draw about 10W.

when i first saw them i thought the same thing too. i could get away with only one then. the more i thought aobut it tho, i dont know if they are submersable. im sure they are water proof, but im not sure about staying perminantly in liquid.
 
Only thing I'd be worried about would probably be corrosion. But the tank is plastic, and if they last a few years, at ~$5, replacement might be acceptable.

I wonder what else is out there for 12V submersible heaters. Last I checked though, most of the ones I could find that were designed for heating water, were pretty pricey, and large.

At least if they were in the tank, all the heat would be absorbed by the liquid, which should speed up the process vs. being on the outside.
 
How about just using a 60" length of brake line (or even rubber washer fluid hose) wrapped around a heater hose? Seems like the easiest and cheapest route. Also phuck china and their **** goods.
 
Well. What's funny really is I've lived my whole life in Canada where we get asshole winter like -30 to -40 for weeks on end. I've never heard of heated washer fluid bottle.

Honestly I've never had an issue without it in my 20 years of winter driving here LoL.
 
If you can find an American made version that is double the cost, and guaranteed to last, I'll be all over it. Thanks.

Dude, it costs $4.50 for this item INCLUDING shipping FROM Hong Kong. Are you really thinking this is gonna be at all functional for more than an hour? Some vacuum hose and pipe insulation and use the trucks heating system to heat the washer fluid.
 
Dude, it costs $4.50 for this item INCLUDING shipping FROM Hong Kong. Are you really thinking this is gonna be at all functional for more than an hour? Some vacuum hose and pipe insulation and use the trucks heating system to heat the washer fluid.

So create a whole crap ton of failure points (3+ feet of vacuum hose at 195* and 16PSI?), or install something for $4.50 that if it fails, harms nothing?

As the OP mentioned, he was going to check with Polaris. They might have something made in the US for double or quadruple the price, and I hope they do. But I'm not holding my breath.

If you hate chinese products and won't use them, offer alternatives that make sense. I don't like them, but when there is no logical alternative, there isn't.

I'm not going to make my own computer just because nearly every piece of every single one is made in China. You couldn't even if you wanted to, because you couldn't get components that weren't made in China. Kind of like AC Delco.
 
Why do you need heated washer fluid? To go with the heated windshield, heated wipers, heated side mirrors, heated seats and heated steering wheels that require 200A alternators in new cars. Next they'll start heating the 4WD pushbutton. Then add heaters to LED headlights because they don't de-ice themselves as well as halogens. All this in an internal combustion powered vehicle that makes 80% heat and 20% mechanical power from your gasoline.
 
I don't want to outright say it a dumb idea.


All I'll say is, this here is all you actually need. Actually that red cord under it, is my block heater 10' extension cord. I use that ALL the time.

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And this is what the front of my house looks like right now. When it not snowing balls out, it's frigid cold. It's usually sunny when it's cold out actually. It gets too cold to snow.

I know winter. I know I don't need or want heated washer fluid.

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Why do you need heated washer fluid? To go with the heated windshield, heated wipers, heated side mirrors, heated seats and heated steering wheels that require 200A alternators in new cars. Next they'll start heating the 4WD pushbutton. Then add heaters to LED headlights because they don't de-ice themselves as well as halogens. All this in an internal combustion powered vehicle that makes 80% heat and 20% mechanical power from your gasoline.

Well said.
 
Actually, in some ways you folks are behind the times and are re-inventing the wheel.
Back in the late 70s or early 80s, Lincoln came out with a town car that had two alternators.
One 14.5 volt one for the car's electrical system, and a 3 phase AC one that put out either 120 or 240 volts.
Its been so long, I don't remember which.

The car also had a very special windshield. In the safety goo between the two panes of glass, they put a quantity of very fine gold dust.
I was never able to see it, but some folks said that if you got the light just right, you could see a gold tint.

Anyway, there was enough to be weakly conductive. When you hit the defrost button, it put the high voltage output from the second alt across the windshield, and caused it to warm up.

Of course, being in Fl., I only got to see it work a couple of times. But with the engine running at fast idle, it only took a few seconds for you to see results. And, unlike the defrost grid on rear windows, it was a surprisingly even effect.

Gold was fairly cheap back then compared to now, but even so, I would hate to think what a replacement would cause if a rock hit it.

On a related note, I saw an article about some folks that are developing a wiperless windshield.
Details are being guarded right now until all the patents are in place, but it seems to involve an ultrasonic transducer that vibrates the glass at about 30KHZ, and the rain, snow, and bird crap just bounces off.
 
So create a whole crap ton of failure points (3+ feet of vacuum hose at 195* and 16PSI?), or install something for $4.50 that if it fails, harms nothing?

As the OP mentioned, he was going to check with Polaris. They might have something made in the US for double or quadruple the price, and I hope they do. But I'm not holding my breath.

If you hate chinese products and won't use them, offer alternatives that make sense. I don't like them, but when there is no logical alternative, there isn't.

I'm not going to make my own computer just because nearly every piece of every single one is made in China. You couldn't even if you wanted to, because you couldn't get components that weren't made in China. Kind of like AC Delco.



You buy ten feet (maybe more, maybe less) of washer fluid hose, or vacuum line. You connect that in line between the washer fluid pump, and you wrap that that around a heater hose about thirtyleven times and secure it with some zip ties, or maybe electrical tape or ductape. Maybe you put some pipe insulation around this ordeal. Now you have heated washer fluid.

Sorry if that has too many failure points for you and isn't as simple and safe your idea of wiring up an electrical accessory and a switch so you can put the cheapest heating element you can find on a plastic bottle filled with a flammable liquid.
 
Heated windshields are still available. I wasn't joking about that part. Or the heated side mirrors, steering wheel, wipers and seats. All real.
 
Why do you need heated washer fluid? To go with the heated windshield, heated wipers, heated side mirrors, heated seats and heated steering wheels that require 200A alternators in new cars. Next they'll start heating the 4WD pushbutton. Then add heaters to LED headlights because they don't de-ice themselves as well as halogens. All this in an internal combustion powered vehicle that makes 80% heat and 20% mechanical power from your gasoline.


you made me think about why i bought this truck to begin with, simplicity. you make me feel guilty about putting in an electric washer pump, and for that i thank you.

im going to stick with the bottle and pump from the 88 i put in yesterday. i am also thinking about the wiper arms with the sprayers in them, with all this non freeze washer solution they should work prety well
 

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