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My cage. Whats it worth? NOT for sale, but may have to.

rdn2blazer

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Some of you guys know the work I put into my cage. It's 100% USA DOM tube. 2" throughout for the main cage and 1 3/4 for seat mounts. It's not 100% complete to the final I want (To me) but wouldn't take much to get it completed. What would it be worth IF I have to sell it. There is 300 feet in this cage with just the 2" DOM. It should just pull out of my tube since it's a full vert. Countless fabrication hours and designing went into this cage. And I tried to build it to SCORE rules for head clearence and seat belt mounting heights.



The build thread

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=229674
 
Is it built to full SCORE spec or just for the seat belt height and head clearance?
It would be worth much more to me if was built to a spec. Otherwise it's just some guy with a bender and a welder. Still to right guy, for the fab time and weld time (btw: I am a professional welder) you have a lot in that. I may be way off because I would never buy something like I would build like you did, but I would start with a feeler at a 1000 and go from there. The market for these types of things seem set themselves. That's my .02
 
beags86 said:
Is it built to full SCORE spec or just for the seat belt height and head clearance?
It would be worth much more to me if was built to a spec. Otherwise it's just some guy with a bender and a welder. Still to right guy, for the fab time and weld time (btw: I am a professional welder) you have a lot in that. I may be way off because I would never buy something like I would build like you did, but I would start with a feeler at a 1000 and go from them there. The market for these types of things seem set themselves. That's my .02
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Head clearence AND per weight of vehicle. SCORE say 4500lbs up Must use 2" DOM. Other then that it's my design. And no I'm no prefessional welder, even though I am certified for stick. But this is just MIG of course. Would scrap it before I sold it for a grand. Just the tubing alone was close to half that. Not uncommon for a cage to run $2500 at a shop for a basic 6/8 point cage.
 
a grand is a joke for probably the baddest cage ever built in here imo.... I would say 2 g's at a minimum is fair..
 
ryoken said:
a grand is a joke for probably the baddest cage ever built in here imo....
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Well what's it worth then? He was asking for opinions. Like I said I would build it myself and wouldn't buy it.
 
read the post... sounded like a super lowball # imo..
 
ryoken said:
read the post... sounded like a super lowball # imo..
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I did read it. Wasn't trying to discount someones hard work and time. My opinion is that it's tough to sell things like that. I have done a fair amount of custom work only to find that's it tough to get the money out of it because no one has much expendable cash these days or they wanted it a different way, or whatever excuse they gave me at the time. Hence why I mentioned the markets kind of set themselves. His needs might not meet mine yada,yada,yada...
 
Fwiw, I contacted a professional off road shop this week about building me a full cage like the one in the magazine "premudder" build. I was quoted $2500-$3500 depending on options (frame ties, seat mounts, body ties, etc). The premudder cage has less tube work than rdn2blazer's truck.

That said, I'm sure it's worth it but I about crapped my pants. I was expecting more in the $1500-$2000 range.
 
nvrenuf said:
Fwiw, I contacted a professional off road shop this week about building me a full cage like the one in the magazine "premudder" build. I was quoted $2500-$3500 depending on options (frame ties, seat mounts, body ties, etc). The premudder cage has less tube work than rdn2blazer's truck.

That said, I'm sure it's worth it but I about crapped my pants. I was expecting more in the $1500-$2000 range.
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I would believe that. My shop would prob be higher then that....
 
Umm im sure its worth a buttload!

Too heavy for me as a dune rig. But sick cage for sure...


I do want some of those badass round floor flanges though.... :whistle:
 
heck, 300' of 2" is worth over a grand alone, even at todays good prices...
 
Deuling said:
Umm im sure its worth a buttload!

Too heavy for me as a dune rig. But sick cage for sure...


I do want some of those badass round floor flanges though.... :whistle:
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My design, but made for me by Kurt @ DIY. You know he will take care of you :waytogo:
 
rdn2blazer said:
My design, but made for me by Kurt @ DIY. You know he will take care of you :waytogo:
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I already have like 16 of his square staked cage mounts so im prolly good lol. Just wondered if you had extra lol. But then i remembered im doing 1.75 cage not 2" :doah:
 
beags86 said:
...... I have done a fair amount of custom work only to find that's it tough to get the money out of it because no one has much expendable cash these days or they wanted it a different way.
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This is the biggest factor in selling anything custom. People are just broke ass these days it seems. I sure as hell know I AM lol :doah:. Or it's just not what they want. I KNOW my cage is a little...extreme lol. Overkill, whatever word fits. Someone said my cage looks like it could handle a roll down a mountain and would be fine lol. I do like the mad max crazy look of it. Just worked out that way I guess. No hard feeling at all. It's your opinion, it's all good :thumb:. My plan it to finish the gosh darn thing but under the circumstances you guys know I'm in. I have to look at all options.
 
nvrenuf said:
That said, I'm sure it's worth it but I about crapped my pants. I was expecting more in the $1500-$2000 range.
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I'm sure that's how most guys feel.

As far as what the OP's cage is worth goes I'll just say I'm guessing it's "worth" way more than someone is willing to pay for it. A cage that only fits a very specific vehicle requires a very specific customer, and furthermore someone with a lot of cash on hand willing to trust that you did it right.

Not to be the doom and gloom guy but that is a recipe for a lowball price. :(
 
Deuling said:
I already have like 16 of his square staked cage mounts so im prolly good lol. Just wondered if you had extra lol. But then i remembered im doing 1.75 cage not 2" :doah:
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I have a stack I haven't used yet but yes for 2". I even machined the step in them so the tube does not go all the way through, but about 1/2 plate thickness. Can be welded top side around the tube and inside if I felt like it. No point of course as its inset into the plate and will never shear. Tube will tear before a weld fails with the extra inset into the plate half way.
 
rdn2blazer said:
I have a stack I haven't used yet but yes for 2". I even machined the step in them so the tube does not go all the way through, but about 1/2 plate thickness. Can be welded top side around the tube and inside if I felt like it. No point of course as its inset into the plate and will never shear. Tube will tear before a weld fails with the extra inset into the plate half way.
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Thats why I like them. Wicked design. I hope you can get all better so you can start producing wicket $hit like that for us dumb guys :thumb:
 
ashman said:
I'm sure that's how most guys feel.

As far as what the OP's cage is worth goes I'll just say I'm guessing it's "worth" way more than someone is willing to pay for it. A cage that only fits a very specific vehicle requires a very specific customer, and furthermore someone with a lot of cash on hand willing to trust that you did it right.

Not to be the doom and gloom guy but that is a recipe for a lowball price. :(
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this is what I was trying to say, just couldn't get it out as well as ash did here.
 
Cage work is just like custom paint on a car. A good quality job cost BIIIIG bucks. People think a custom paint job should only cost like $1500 to maybe $3K. NOT! My budy got a good paint job near show quality for $10K. Show level paint job it was not. Over all it looks bad ass! Look for the quality in the details and you find flaws easily.

$2500 to $3500 for a cage is pricy as hell, but not really if you have ever built a cage. Once you have you know the work it takes. Hence the reason I did it myself. In tubing and tools it took to bend and notch, I have less then thet into it by a fair amount. But I can tell you in hours to build done as a 99% one man job by me, myself and I, with a little help from my boy to get the bends to repeat as close to perfection as humanly possible, I have WAY WAY more then that into it in labor alone. This was my second cage ever built, and I didn't plan it out at all. It was built each tube as it went together. It just ended up like this lol!
 
Just look at the fab work going into Greg's 72'. Thats a $300K truck in labor alone I'd bet lol. And ALL 100% of it freakin BAD ASS.
 
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