84K5BD
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willyswanter said:Thats a 406, early 416 only deal. The late model 416's share the same heavy casting boxes that the U1000's and U1300's use.
Brake parts are a secret so far
so you have 416's with factory disk brakes?
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My shafts bigger than yours...
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so you have 416's with factory disk brakes?
Yes sir. But I'm not going to use them, going with 1 ton stuff.
84K5BD
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willyswanter said:
sorry, i meant the portal boxes.
I'll take some tomorrow. Heres all I have:
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Oops I do have one:
You can see how thick the housing is down the side now compared to the older drum style boxes.
You can see how thick the housing is down the side now compared to the older drum style boxes.
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84K5BD
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why did you ditch the factory disks? what are you gonna do about steering arms, reuse the originals or do some sort of high steer?
Because there massive and I run 16.5's.
stallion85
1/2 ton status
Bling Bling That's some stout stuff there Jason! My D44 is still better
Can't wait to see what you come up with when it's all said and done!
That's some stout stuff there Jason! My D44 is still better Can't wait to see what you come up with when it's all said and done!
Wow those are big shafts. What is the R&P setup in a mog axle. I have always loved the clearance they offer, but I know nothing about the 404, 406 etc which is which. Do they have the reduction in the portal hubs. What will be the final ratio? Lockers available? These are for the CC right?
Blazr77400
1/2 ton status
Rear steer?
Blazr77400 said:
If I ever find another front...
MTBLAZER89 said:
What do you mean by ring/pinion setup? There just a normal ring and pinion, just massive.
They do have reduction in the hubs. Final ratio is roughly 6.5:1. They have air lockers from the factory. Yes, for the truck.
Nice You'll have some crazy clearance. I meant how big are the R&P? The center section looks so small, but with shafts that large I am guessing it's prbably bigger than it appears. Hope to be down that way sometime soon again I'll have to check them out.
You'll have some crazy clearance. I meant how big are the R&P? The center section looks so small, but with shafts that large I am guessing it's prbably bigger than it appears. Hope to be down that way sometime soon again I'll have to check them out.
Dana 60 vs. mog:
Mog vs. dana 44:
Dana 44 vs. mog:
Portal gears:
Mog vs. dana 44:
Dana 44 vs. mog:
Portal gears:
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ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
wow that is just beef it is interesting to see the crawlers breaking those once and a blue moon isn't the weakest link supposed to be the portal boxes?
Again, thats on a 404. 404's are completely different than the larger 406/416/U1000/U1300 axles.
The 404's use a thinner almost pot metal portal housing and use angle cut gears which put a ton of side load on the housing. 416's use a massive cast steel case with straight cut gears. Not to mention everything else is way bigger and the housings are way stronger being all cast instead of the 9" style formed steel housings.
404's have given mog axles a bad name. There are guys running these with 49's with no problems. I have seen one axle with a broken u-joint from running 44's in a heavy comp buggy. But the new CV's and shafts from RCV will take care of that.
The 404's use a thinner almost pot metal portal housing and use angle cut gears which put a ton of side load on the housing. 416's use a massive cast steel case with straight cut gears. Not to mention everything else is way bigger and the housings are way stronger being all cast instead of the 9" style formed steel housings.
404's have given mog axles a bad name. There are guys running these with 49's with no problems. I have seen one axle with a broken u-joint from running 44's in a heavy comp buggy. But the new CV's and shafts from RCV will take care of that.
ProJunkRacing
1/2 ton status
so how much are building those axles costing you?
With a front and rear I'd say roughly $5500 with new shafts in the front axle. If I kept stock shafts it would be about $3000 including the cost of the axles.
$5500 is still cheaper than what I have in my dana 60 front alone. With the mogs you don't have to buy air lockers, don't have to buy gears, etc.
The reason for the aftermarket shafts is I am offsetting the diff more than the factory did. It's only like 7" off center and I'm going to move it over all the way to the knuckle to gain as much oil pan clearance as I can.
$5500 is still cheaper than what I have in my dana 60 front alone. With the mogs you don't have to buy air lockers, don't have to buy gears, etc.
The reason for the aftermarket shafts is I am offsetting the diff more than the factory did. It's only like 7" off center and I'm going to move it over all the way to the knuckle to gain as much oil pan clearance as I can.
That is just IMPRESSIVE !
Tom
Tom
84K5BD
1/2 ton status
who is RCV?
