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Highjack. Its a fact of life :draw: :D

HA funny you say that, another guy in the shop did DD15 head because the exh man gaskets fretted the sealing surface. lame. a gasket should never be harder than the material its sealing against :doah:

but after the gong show. someone rewrote the torque procedure for it :D

I don't know why so many north americans are so against the MBE and its european design characteristics. like the new DDs follow closely in. fact of the matter is European diesel technology, is a decade ahead of anything North America has to offer. Can't even get the Dough heads over here to accept diesel cars and small trucks. :shame:


couple months back we had a 250 hour western star 4900 window a DD15 in our yard. came in with a knock. a guy started it up to limp in to the shop and 1half way to the door. BANG. rod 2 lets go and cleans out both sides. detroit pulled one off the line and flew it up to replace it.

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you guys should try playing with Yanmars..... the valve trains consistently hand grenade blocks.....

job security baby!!!! :haha:
 
DEMON44 said:
Highjack. Its a fact of life :draw: :D


I don't know why so many north americans are so against the MBE and its european design characteristics. like the new DDs follow closely in. fact of the matter is European diesel technology, is a decade ahead of anything North America has to offer. Can't even get the Dough heads over here to accept diesel cars and small trucks. :shame:
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Technology is way cool but I think the engineers forgot who and or what has to pay to repair one of these. The parent company to our shop has made the decision not to buy any new trucks at this time, the big problem is weight they said. They guy in charge of that is really sharp and very tech savvy, his response was, "Those are not going to happen here".

The MBE 4000 series have great mileage and decent power but are short in life span, we've had to have about 80% of the fleet (MBE equipped) checked for head gasket issues at less than 500,000 miles. Compared to a series 60 that runs to 750 or farther before needing that kind of work.

It is funny though because business has been so slow at the local Detroit place that they are coming to pick trucks up to do head gasket work.
 
the way of the dodo bird brother. you can't buy a new 60 after this year. can't by a new cat after this year.

doesn't matter who likes what. the options are what they are for 2010. the MBE4000 is a lighter duty engine no question about it. we do lots of 4000 heads and gaskets. egr valves and coolers yada yada. this stuff is here to stay. its a love it or leave it type deal right.
 
I fabricate, not turn wrenches. i've been working out of a Crapsman box since '88. 12 up and 12 below. It's fine for what I do...but I may only be needing something from my box three or four times a day. Frankly the tools I spend money on are squares, clamps, hammers, etc etc...not wrenches or screwdrivers. I have them and use them, but there just isn't need for high end hand tools in my trade.

Frankly, the main reason I have a POS box is because the environment is brutal on boxes. It would be a crime to have a snappy box in any of the shops I've worked in.

My drawers still slide, but they're not super smooth. I leave my box where it is because it's a death-trap to roll it around the shop. I might have $3500.00 in tools total at work...and I'm more the exception. Most guys have less than half what I have.

I do think Snappy, Mac etc are priced high...but there is no question about their quality. I would definitely invest in a box from one of the big players if pulling wrenches fulltime was my trade.

Rene
 
well said Rene.

I always laugh when snappy guys take 20 minutes out of the day to make sure their box doesn't get sparks thrown on it.

But yeah, a welder/torch/air arc is in my hands about 70% of the time so I guess I really can't argue with the guys that work on boats, big rigs, cars, etc.

For what I do, they work just fine and I'm not afraid of bending/cutting them to get a good bite.

I HATE most harbor freight tools but how the hell can you argue with 3/8"-1 1/4" wrenches with a lifetime warranty for 30 bucks? AGAIN the guys doing nothing but turning bolts all day have good reason... but for me? Eh.
 
Dodo bird is very true. The quandry my way up bosses are stuck is weight. And the DD15 is 3000 pounds heavier in a cascadia than a MB in a columbia. We just did a rehab/ modifaction to a columbia last month to lighten it up so that with 100 gallons and a driver it could scale 50,000 pounds.

Wow what a way to highjack....to the OP sorry
 
EPIC highjack. :doah: and........no one got out of hand either :laugh:


no doubt weight is different, the DD15 is a bigger engine than the MBE4000 and the Cascadias and Coronados are bigger more plush trucks than a columbia could ever hope to be. but you sacrifice horsepower. balance what you need I guess. MBE4000 - 450hp at best. DD15 - upto 550hp DD16 - 600hp+

IMHO, columbias are a good line haul / short haul fleet rigs. the cascadia and coronado sweet long haulers.

maybe time to spec out 56,000lb rears for higher GVWR over the 44k
 
Fabrimacator21 said:
well said Rene.

I always laugh when snappy guys take 20 minutes out of the day to make sure their box doesn't get sparks thrown on it.

But yeah, a welder/torch/air arc is in my hands about 70% of the time so I guess I really can't argue with the guys that work on boats, big rigs, cars, etc.

For what I do, they work just fine and I'm not afraid of bending/cutting them to get a good bite.

I HATE most harbor freight tools but how the hell can you argue with 3/8"-1 1/4" wrenches with a lifetime warranty for 30 bucks? AGAIN the guys doing nothing but turning bolts all day have good reason... but for me? Eh.
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I'm curous too why you didn't make this post lik 8.5 pager earlier?:rolleyes:
 
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DD15 head today. torque with hydraulic wrench. 180 ft + 90 +90. on a bare head only. mark my words. there is an exhaust gasket changeup coming.

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I subscribed to this page looking for creativity and upgrades that 73 K-5 (O/P) may have posted. Tool shed is my favorite post. I love to see additions and afterthoughts on a tool that has been gotten for cheap.

I also see that Demon 44 tends to post in big bold type when he likes to jack. Please don't disrespect the O/P. Start a new post if you need to be heard, cuz I really have no need for a DD15 head in a toolbox.

Seeing as a moderator posted not too long ago.... Is it really a fact of life, or is this site following Pirate? Mixed signals here.
 
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Well I hope the OP isn't offended, no offense was meant on my part. And what he did was a very cool take on the built not bought theme and going outside the box:bow:

What Lukes posting is a take on what some of us do in our daily work lives. He deals with the new Detroit stuff (he works for a Detroit dealer) and I work for a job shop owned by a trucking company. He deals with the new engine stuff and its growing pains. My boss wants me a as chassis and alignment guy so thats where my career is going now. My headache is Hendrickson air ride axles and the lack of warranty from Hendrickson. I'm condemning about 2~3 axles a week as unuseable. The truck owners are really not happy with that because the bill to replace is $2600.
 
its the evolution of a topic. normal if you ask me. after the first 10 posts you can only say nice box, great score! so many times before its gets old. theres no disrespect on anyones parts I don't think. theres no swearing, insults, or other such nonsense.

a thread about a good score toolbox -> other toolboxes -> tools -> good tools crappy tools -> uses for tools -> big hydraulic tools -> ..........whats next?


sorry if you like your internet structured a certain way. mines pretty loose. block me if you don't like what i have to say. All my posts will magically disappear on your computer. You'll be a happier internet soldier, and I won't loose any sleep over it.
 
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lol

I like how the tool guy snapon- mac whoever always comes in on payday and carries anuff money to cash everyones check an get his lol
 
RudyO said:
I subscribed to this page looking for creativity and upgrades that 73 K-5 (O/P) may have posted. Tool shed is my favorite post. I love to see additions and afterthoughts on a tool that has been gotten for cheap.

I also see that Demon 44 tends to post in big bold type when he likes to jack. Please don't disrespect the O/P. Start a new post if you need to be heard, cuz I really have no need for a DD15 head in a toolbox.

Seeing as a moderator posted not too long ago.... Is it really a fact of life, or is this site following Pirate? Mixed signals here.
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He bolted a couple cabinets together, and put some casters under it, what were you hoping for??? He got a nice score on a couple of decent quality cabinets. What innovations were you expecting? A ten page conversation and write up of how to bolt casters to sheet metal?

Martin
 
i work at a freightliner dealership,but have yet to see a dd15 get ripped apart here... i get stuck doing 60 heads all day long...mostly egr, not many pre's
 
Fabrimacator21 said:
FFS.... the o/p got his props on the first page....

the rest was a pissing contest.:deal::cool1::doah:
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i read through this whole thing and this is my thoughts on it,

yes its been established that snap on is expensive and other brands aint, also that more professional guys use snap on and mac than the other brands,


but also your main argument that your paying 4000 more for drawers that open easy is false, its been stated that the more expensive boxes hold up better and you made the argument that yours never moves.

but think about it count how many times you open your drawers a day and add that up for the next 20 years.

then as a mechanic the same thing, im sure his numbers will be at least 3 times higher.

as for not moving your box, the wear and tear on the box is still there, with the weight.


now add in conditions, not everyone has a nice clean shop to put their box in, some sit outside or in bad areas,

i bought a snap on box when i got out of wyotech because of the deal they offered, then filled it with craftsman tools, i slowly filled the extra space with snap on tools off the truck.

i have found that snap on feels 10x better in my hand and they dont break or bend or round off like the craftsmans,

i have a 1/2 craftsman ratchet and a 1/2 snap on. i have relaced the craftsman 3 times and i noticed the snap on ratchet has twice as many teeth so it doesnt take as many rotations to feed back. which is extremely important when your in a tight spot.

now how about bad conditions, im no longer a mechanic for hire, and i still have my box, it sits in a horse barn along side my dads craftsmans box covered in an inch of dust for ol soldier running in and out of the barn.

after 2 years of all the weight of tools and the conditions my box still looks and opertates like its brand new. my dads craftsman box which has half as many tools is falling apart and its a bitch to open drawers. oh by the way thats the second set of boxes he has bought in the last 7 years because they cant hold up to the conditions.


snap on and mac must be doing something right because they are making a profit.
 
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