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Next $1000?

beater_k20 said:
stroll on over to the Vendor Forum, and find Tim's Offroad. shoot Tim a PM, he'll hook you up right on parts, probably cheaper than anywhere else. he also used to run a 10/12 bolt combo on his truck with 35s. so he has experience with a setup just like yours.

Vortecs are cylinder heads used from 96-00 on 5.7L truck engines, and will bolt on to any early SBC with minimal modifications
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Oh, Vortec heads.. I see.... Well, the 350 is plenty fresh, and will pull those tires over 80 mph with the 3.73's..... so, I think I will leave it alone......for now... haha..


I will check out the vendor forum.. but someone recommend a selectable locker for a 14bff.... I think I can do this in stages... just get the 4 wheels, I am going to need eventually, but just use the rears for now, with a 14bff and selectable locker, that should get me though most mud, in 2 wheel drive....... I can do the front later, as I get the rest of the bucks together.. I figure a rear end is going to cost me 100-200, a locker around 4-5 and wheels and mounting another $100..... some new springs for the front, and I am at my 1000.00, with another 400-500 needed for the front... LOL, I can feel my wallet getting thinner as we speak......
 
i dont believe anyone makes a selectable locker for the 14FF, i could be wrong though. why do you not want a full time locker? with a selectable, the actuating system, be it air, hydraulic, electric, or whatever is just another thing to go wrong. lockers arent THAT unmanagable. i drove Tim's truck when we were in Attica for RTCC, didnt notice anything unmanagable about it, and he runs 38.5 TSLs Detroit in the rear, Loc Rite in the front.
 
beater_k20 said:
i dont believe anyone makes a selectable locker for the 14FF, i could be wrong though. why do you not want a full time locker? with a selectable, the actuating system, be it air, hydraulic, electric, or whatever is just another thing to go wrong. lockers arent THAT unmanagable. i drove Tim's truck when we were in Attica for RTCC, didnt notice anything unmanagable about it, and he runs 38.5 TSLs Detroit in the rear, Loc Rite in the front.
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Yeah, I can't find one either..

why? Hell, I don't know... just exploring possibilities, seemed like a selectable would be the best way, locked when I want, not when I don't...

I wish I could drive a truck with a full time locker in it before I buy..

is everyone agreed it's not worth locking up this 12 bolt? it'll break, right?

Damn, I wish I could find a 14bff with a detroit already in it.....


LOL, once I make one decision, it opens up ten more!! lol.....

Thanks Guys
 
Quaddawg said:
LOL, once I make one decision, it opens up ten more!! lol.....
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welcome to the world of building a trail rig. i started out with a 79 K10 shortbox frame and bed, a 2wd 1/2 ton longbox, a set of 3/4 ton axles, a 350/203 combo, a pair of front lift springs and a shackle flip. was gonna throw a set of 35s on it and call it good. almost $2500 later i still cant wheel the damn thing!
 
Start with the bolt on steering brace before anything else. Spend the rest on whatever you want, I'd get a winch.

Either way, get the steering brace on there. Forget your axles, you've got strong enough ones for your tires already. Work the rest, by then the tires will be worn out and you can continue the buildup. Build the truck up now with the goodies you want, and build the running gear later. You made a wise choice at staying small at first. The urge is to go bigger and bigger on everything at first but IMO everybody should learn to wheel in a mild rig with maybe a rear locker and some 33-35" tires.
 
Goddamn....Thats close to 900lbs airborn..:eek1:

I can't believe those bikes didn't just blow thier guts out all over the grass during landing....Very cool though. :D

Also, there is NO selectable locker for the 14b ff. Spool, welded or Detriot are pretty much the only decent options. I wouldn't bother with the 12b at all. As cheap as 14b's are, theres no reason to mess with the 12b. Those ebay axles you listed ealier are perfect for you, your truck and what you want to do with it. Detriot or weld the 14b, maybe a Lock-right or something similar for the D44 and you'd be set.

This truck belongs to shewheeler on here and a member of my club. 77 short bed...
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Me and a bunch of other club members helped her out with building it. D44/14b ff combo. 4.10's, I welded the rear. Front D44 is open. 37" SSR's. I'm guessing that this is pretty much where you want your truck to be. I've driven the truck, it works great and is as reliable as a 27 year old truck should be. And yeah, the diff covers and tie rod are pink...lol, it's a girls truck. :D
 
i haven't locked up my 12b yet so i couldn't tell you how strong it is but im guessing it'd be a good way to crunch some !@#$ and empty some pockets.

if you decide to weld any diffs it should be the front but if u lock up the back you should invest in a complete carriage replacement... Itd hold no problem if u get the kit.

The steering box on my rig is just welded to the frame over and over to give it strength, I've had it in some burly ruts and was torqin on it pretty good..blew out a steering hose lol. box held up though. It has 35's and a 6"

If i had a grand and your truck id weld up the front diff or stuff a detroit in there, and buy the newest lockright($400) for the rear. Like i said b4 just keep your hubs disengaged on the road and don't try any hard rocks. If your just gonna be in the mud and snow and not rock crawlin youll b fine. The lockright locker is a traction aid that will lock up and act as a locker when u are goin in a straight line but when you go around corners it disengages. The newest lockright has a quiter operation then the older ones. Or you could buy a 14 bolt and weld her up but the 14 bolts have a lot less ground clearence then a 12b. your not gonna bust a14b it unless u try to carv a rock with it.

AS for vortecs ... they will instantly add 30-40 hp at the fly wheel. If you decide to spend some $$ on the heads it would be about 130 bucks to get them ported and polished and it would give u about another 15-25hp. Your choice man.........

just my 2 cents
 
dirtwarrior17 said:
AS for vortecs i meant vortec heads... chevy started using them in '95 and they will instantly add 30-40 hp at the fly wheel.
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'96, do your homework.
 
dirtwarrior17 said:
lol whatever 95/96 same thing still get released in 95
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who gives a @#$^ when it was released. it was in 96 model year trucks, NOT 95s. if you're gonna send him lookin for $h!t, at least send him lookin for the right $h!t.
 
dude i said chevy started usin them in 95 not they were on '95 trucks.. doesn't matter.

NO worries a vortec is a vortec not like he can !@#$ it up.

I meant they still came out in '95 even though they were '96 trucks. YOu know how you can buy a 2005 corvette in november 2004?
 
I still say you should get some sort of self recovery equipment. Went 'wheelin many of times with people that had all the HD drivetrains. 3/4tons, 1tons, 1350 series driveshafts, lockers, big blocks, boggers etc. Then when they are stuck they come over and ask if I can pull them out, since I'm one of the few with a winch(pto in my case). Then these trucks with more tire/motor & money invested don't even have a decent place to hook to.

I'd much rather wheel with someone with a small truck that is self sufficent. Plus you learn finesse when running a smaller truck. If you have bullet proof drivetrain it's not so much about the line you pick, just aim and hammer it. Nothing wrong with that approach either:grin: , but you should have some experience first. You'll learn some throttle control running axles you are concerned about breaking. I've run 1/2 tons and had to watch the loud petal and most of the time had 1 tons with total disregard to breakage. One of my more fun trucks was a flatbed blazer running 10b 1/2 ton front/ 14b ff rear with 36/12.5 swampers front 35 bogger rear. The 14b did drag easily with these short tires, but the truck was alot lighter and more manuverable than my 1 ton sub on 44s.
 
I want your Unimog DD.... :D



Yeah, I have done a lot of chewing on this..... at the moment, I think:

I will buy the axles on Ebay, or locally...

d44 8 lug front, 4.10's for now. Open or LS, whatever it comes with

14bff rear with a Detroit.

a Winch and some connection points.. I have straps and tree savers and chains and all...


NOW, to go shopping......... still a lot of little "free" things to do and fix on her..


THANKS GUYS, you will see me back, after I break it... LOL, I just wish I had a trailer.. but yeah, with no way home, I think I will take it a lot easier at first....
 
Quaddawg said:
I want your Unimog DD.... :D
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We took it out to the mounds ORV park on 12/11 and I'm still fighting water in the fuel:mad: . Being that I don't drive it much I haven't burned thru the bad fuel yet.
 
Well, I am going to try to buy the 3/4 ton axles that I posted... I will know tomorrow if I win the bid..


That way, I will have some lower gears, and heavier axles, the diffs are open, so I can stuff a Detroit in the rear, rebuild the brakes, order the wheels, and have everything ready to stuff in for less than $600, and that is the high side... Leaves me some bucks for fresh front springs, mine are getting a bit saggy...:grin:

Pics as it develops....... thanks for the help guys!!
 
KidJethro said:
Goddamn....Thats close to 900lbs airborn..:eek1:

I can't believe those bikes didn't just blow thier guts out all over the grass during landing....Very cool though. :D
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Hey KidJethro, I found a video of me landing the heavy quad.. that is OVER 1000 lbs in the air, and landing... LOL, watch the landing when I hit... play it frame by frame and look at the rear suspension and rear tires... LOL


Wait for it, it takes a while to load

http://www.putfile.com/gallery/album71/P1010350
 
if it tickles your fancy any I have a D60 out of a '79 F250 thats just needs brakes and cleaned up to be a good axle. anyone can have it if they want for 150 bucks. I can ship or one of ya'll can come pick it up. the gears are 3.73 i think.
 
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