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ORD springs, take or leaf it?

I have said it several times, you can't explain to someone what the difference is, they won't believe you. It has to be experienced.
 
I agree with this. People assume anything "new" rides way better than an old square body (maybe they've never heard of Super Doody?) and you're embellishing to say it rides "good". But "ride" and "softness" are completely different than "handling" and "cornering". There is no comparison between my soft, trail-soaking, body rolling, creek-crossing, fearless K5 and my DD Cadillac. Different tools for different jobs, so I never say my K5 rides like a Cadillac. Insulting on both ends.
 
The cliche “rides like a caddy”, is all complementary to the caddy IMO. It is, or at least was the standard all others are compared to. But I totally agree with the terminology being used inaccurately.

To me, ride is how it handles bumps and dips and how those translate to the seat of pants. Kind of like the 3 bears beds, too soft, too hard, or just right.

Cornering and handling are not features we expect, or shouldn’t expect from trail rigs. Based on my experience with my rig, the back (stock) springs were worn out and overloaded and the fronts weren’t all that bad but still kind of harsh when I hit bumps on paved roads. This setup definitely affected the cornering and handling, particularly when there was a bump in middle of a corner. Felt like I wasnt in control of the vehicle.

After the upgrade, any bump on any surface is handled in stride. There are no harsh jolts, the bouncing side to side (mostly due to the rears being shot) no longer happens and the ride is soft. This has improved the handling and cornering relative to what it used to be, but certainly not comparable to a caddy or any other car for sure. I feel there may be a bit more body roll with new new fronts vs the old, less roll in the rear. What matters to me is that when I am in the corner and encounter a bump or dip, I feel in control, much more so than previously. I found myself traveling 10-15 mph faster on paved (and I use that team loosely being a resident of PA) roads, because the swap has affected the handling that much in my rig.
 
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