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Pictures of my 'braced' homemade shakle-flip

MY point and opinion is that some people have exceptional fab skills and can create a diamond out of a turd. However, most of us, including myself, don't always have the skills we think we have and try to fab a part that may look reliable and safe at face value but in reality it is a disaster waiting to happen. Too many times on this site I see guys trying to take the short cut and doing half-assed crap because they would rather spend countless hours trying to fab parts that can otherwise be bought for less than the time and materials it took to make. Plus these purchased parts have had many hours of testing and engineering put into them to insure quality and strength.

And you know a great way to make sure your design is safe?

Post a picture of it on CK5 and let other people weigh in their opinions.
 
:eek1:$180 for for shackle drop brackets, holy cow. I thought jeepers where bad about buying high dollar bolt-on parts that u can easily make yourself. I guess that's what you have to do if you can't weld. It's funny when someone talks **** about another person's project when they them self are using a bolt on product that they spent over $100 on :laugh:.


I made mine out of scrap metal and in about two hours. Hell anyone that can weld and use a chop saw could make one. It may not be bling-bling, but at lest you will have beer & tip money for the strippers:bow:.

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Mock up

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Ready for paint

Sorry to go off topic. Could someone host the pic and post it. I can't see it since I'm not a paying member yet.
 
Are you serious about that contraption you "fabbed"?

I hope you have health and/or life insurance. That thing you built doesn't even look like it would pass inspection.....anywhere!

On a lighter note, I can see what you were trying to accomplish with your "design" but I would have done it a little differently.
1. Angle iron so it could be bolted to both the side and bottom of the frame rails.
2. A brace alongside the big angled tubing piece from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the tubing.

BTW, if you have money for the iron, you have money for a membership. Pay up the $25 and hurry up and get thru your hazing ritual.
 
Are you serious about that contraption you "fabbed"?

I think it looks perfectly fine if he has it attached to the (stock looking) bracket in the first picture.

If not, I agree that there is lots of leverage on the welds and that it has a pretty high potential for failure.
 
No hard feeling at all!! I just feel the need to explain myself if I am criticized for something. Constructive criticism is welcome...it can help people build better things. This site is great for ideas and good advice.
 
Are you serious about that contraption you "fabbed"?

I hope you have health and/or life insurance. That thing you built doesn't even look like it would pass inspection.....anywhere!

On a lighter note, I can see what you were trying to accomplish with your "design" but I would have done it a little differently.
1. Angle iron so it could be bolted to both the side and bottom of the frame rails.
2. A brace alongside the big angled tubing piece from the bottom of the frame to the bottom of the tubing.

BTW, if you have money for the iron, you have money for a membership. Pay up the $25 and hurry up and get thru your hazing ritual.

HAhahaa,I guess you can't see very well. The mount in the picture above uses the stock support bracket.The mount uses two sides of the stock frame like all the high$$$ kits.

Hey, show me your shackle drop bracket that you made? I want to see how it should be done since your are the forum expert:D.
 
Up K5er,

Hey, can you email me your pic? I would like to see your project.

mudshowman at Yahoo dot com
 
Wow alot of harsh critics on something that looks better than ALOT of scarey stuff. I guess its like the big poo pipe roll cage debate. Theres always gunna be someone to tear you down because they "think" something isnt safe.

Some of you should realy look at some of the STOCK stuff out there before you start bashing someones fab skills. Want an example? Flat fender jeeps, yep they have one sided shackles stock. Some of the imported SUV's and mini SUV's, simply have a piece of tube welded to the bottom of the frame for the shackle to attatch to. Jeeps and fullsize ford trucks, import SUVs have front mounted front shackles.(yea maybe im being harsh on the front shackles but it just seams retarded when you think about the mechanics of them)

Now lets get this straight Im not defending some ghetto fab work. Im simply saying that UPK5er's setup, as long as the welds are good, is just as strong if not stronger than stock. ACE138's setup, again as long as the welds are good, is definatly stronger than stock.(maybe add a few more bolts though the frame) Im by no means a profesional welder but I live next door to one and my uncle has been a structural engineer/welder for over 30 years(skyscrapers). I consulted both on my spring hangers. 1" of 7018 weld is worth some huge number like 17,000lbs. And to protect myself and others I choose to have a professional welder come fix my frame crack and weld my spring hangers on.

So you hard core naysayers and doomsday advocates need to lay off a bit. Check out the rest of the world and see what actualy holds things together, before you start bashing someones work. Save your harsh oppinions for the morons in the world that do realy stupid ****, like 1" rebar tie rods, YEAH I have seen it done.

Finally if your offended by my coments, well how does it feel? This is just retaliation on your oppinion, NOT some hard work you put into something just to have it, and your self esteem torn down. Im not trying to make people mad, just a forked tounged response, in turn. Eye for an eye and all that.


Balzer
 
Also I don't even think the naysayers wheel there trucks
 
Wow alot of harsh critics on something that looks better than ALOT of scarey stuff. I guess its like the big poo pipe roll cage debate. Theres always gunna be someone to tear you down because they "think" something isnt safe.

Some of you should realy look at some of the STOCK stuff out there before you start bashing someones fab skills. Want an example? Flat fender jeeps, yep they have one sided shackles stock. Some of the imported SUV's and mini SUV's, simply have a piece of tube welded to the bottom of the frame for the shackle to attatch to. Jeeps and fullsize ford trucks, import SUVs have front mounted front shackles.(yea maybe im being harsh on the front shackles but it just seams retarded when you think about the mechanics of them)

Now lets get this straight Im not defending some ghetto fab work. Im simply saying that UPK5er's setup, as long as the welds are good, is just as strong if not stronger than stock. ACE138's setup, again as long as the welds are good, is definatly stronger than stock.(maybe add a few more bolts though the frame) Im by no means a profesional welder but I live next door to one and my uncle has been a structural engineer/welder for over 30 years(skyscrapers). I consulted both on my spring hangers. 1" of 7018 weld is worth some huge number like 17,000lbs. And to protect myself and others I choose to have a professional welder come fix my frame crack and weld my spring hangers on.

So you hard core naysayers and doomsday advocates need to lay off a bit. Check out the rest of the world and see what actualy holds things together, before you start bashing someones work. Save your harsh oppinions for the morons in the world that do realy stupid ****, like 1" rebar tie rods, YEAH I have seen it done.

Finally if your offended by my coments, well how does it feel? This is just retaliation on your oppinion, NOT some hard work you put into something just to have it, and your self esteem torn down. Im not trying to make people mad, just a forked tounged response, in turn. Eye for an eye and all that.


Balzer



Balzer,


I dont think I was harsh AT ALL, AND I did say I was sorry if I did hurt any feelings, which I dont think I did. you are blowing this out of perportion. just mellow out a bit. this does not need to get to a pissing match. I gave consrtuctive criticism period. so if your going to bitch about replies be spicific about who your talking about so as not to offend everyone please, thank you.
 
rdn2blazer,

If you didn't make your own why are replying to this thread? You have nothing positive to say and you have no right giving anyone a hard time.


UPK5er,

I got your pictures. They look pretty good. The only issue I can see is the shackle angle. For me when I tried using the stock bracket, I couldn't get a good angle. That's why I had to make a new one.

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Here is my angle with the weight of the rig resting on the susp.
 
No fabbing I will be buying a Diy4x flip kit soon. It looks alot more stable then that :eek::eek: Plus I use my truck as a Daily driver. I want to make sure it's safe
 
iwaxmyjimmy,

It's the crab claw of death, look out! That is funny:D.

redbeast24740,

You are clueless:rolleyes:.
 
You know I have a problem with all the "so called booty fab expert ball sucking nay sayers" I mean really!! the fact that we modify at all takes the vehicle out of "factory" specs.

Example: blazer lifted 8" with 38 swampers has a rear blow out at 70mph on the freeway.. Is that really considered "safe"

so a rear shackle lets go, the leafspring is still attached firmly to the axle and front hanger..

I just get pissed at the arrogence and condescension of some people. I somewhat expect this amongst jeeper and toyota guys, not the chevy crowd...
 
iwaxmyjimmy,

It's the crab claw of death, look out! That is funny:D.

redbeast24740,

You are clueless:rolleyes:.

Man, you don't need to be giving people crap for not making their own stuff. That's pretty far from the attitude of this site.

Sure, its possible to make safe brackets on your own but that isn't for everyone.
 
Big Blzn, Im sure it was not your intent, but it just came of a bit harsh. I agree with your point though. here is a reply I just posted in another thread about this subject.

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You can learn how to weld, but if your fabrication skills, from an engineering stand point are sub standard your going to build nothing but junk that breaks. and in a worst case scenario someone could be killed. Im talking about the kind of pics we see posted all the time of some home built steering set up that is death waiting to happen.


Read books on how to fabricate, welding books, how to build roll cages, anything that has to do with welding/fabrication. you will learn from trial and error aswell. ofcourse learning from mistakes can be good to, as long as nobody gets hurt in the process. common sence goes a LONG WAY!

Why build something out of 1/2 in thick steel when it only needs to built out of 3/16. on the same token dont build rock sliders out of 1 in tube. I have seen 1 inch cage tube in a full sized 4X4 chevy. it was not entirly out of 1 in. but it was some of the main important structure of the cage. thats just stupid.

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I think your probably fine, even though you (we) cant really see the quality of the welds so much, I would have top platted it from the begining. me personally, I would and did just buy the ORD shackle flip and am getting the DIY for my other rig. I could have built a nice set up of my own but with the REALLY QUALITY flips that are out there, it was not worth my time to build. if you on a tight budgit, I totally agree with the home brew setup, as long as its safe.
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Bingo. You just were a little more P.C. than I was. Gotta have thick skin on here if you are going to post up pics of our rig and work etc. Yeah, sorry if you took offense to my comments but as many members here know that poeple do stuff to their rigs and it just make me shudder (sp). Most people here use thier fab skill to the best of their abilities but is some cases their ideas and skills can and should be questioned. If you are offended, then I'm sorry, that's just life.



And you know a great way to make sure your design is safe?

Post a picture of it on CK5 and let other people weigh in their opinions.

I'd be happy to post pics of my rig and the small amout of fab work I have done. I don't have mad fab skills like a lot of others on this site but am willing to let you guys have at it. Just let me know.

rdn2blazer,

If you didn't make your own why are replying to this thread? You have nothing positive to say and you have no right giving anyone a hard time.

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UPK5er,

I got your pictures. They look pretty good. The only issue I can see is the shackle angle. For me when I tried using the stock bracket, I couldn't get a good angle. That's why I had to make a new one.

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Here is my angle with the weight of the rig resting on the susp.

You are not the one here to determine who should be replying to you posts or not. If you post a pic or a thread it's fair-game to any and all, brother. Maybe join up with a membership and pay the $25 and then act like an a$$hat.
 
You mean everyone, lol.

I think this thread is done.
This thread isn't done until a moderator locks it up, asshat.

Pony up $25 for a membership and lets see if you have what it takes to make comments like you've been doing. :deal::deal::deal:
 
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