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Power wheels - dual 12v motor upgrade

Were looking at this one.
https://www.bigtoysgreencountry.com...e-on-side-x-side-rc-w-rubber-tires-jet-black/

We have a ranch quad and she is stoked to go for rides on it but its too big for her to control
That's pretty nice but I don't have a place for offroad.
They are more into speed on pavement so they like their souped up f150.
I was looking at a side x side but it was a Mercedes Benz SUV convertible, 4x4 coil suspension but had pavement tires.
Can't find it anymore, not sure why.
 
Mine enjoys hers to a point but it's just how she is. She only plays with one toy for only so long.
 
Well this sucks. Swapped the new boards in and same problem. Runs for a few seconds and then shuts off. The power lights on the relay boards click off and it takes a few seconds for them to click on. Got a few thoughts.

First is maybe the wiring is wrong. When in forward, only one of the LED lights (there is one per relay) clicks on (board 1 relay 1) and both motors are driving forward. It dies quickly this way. Switch to reverse and then LED 2 on board 1 lights up along with LED 1 on board 2 but only the motor connected to board 1 spins. It takes a lot more effort to shut down this way but it does shut down eventually. Im wondering if one of the butt connectors I’ve got isn’t allowing a good connection somewhere.

Second thought is maybe the battery can’t discharge fast enough to keep up.

Thoughts?
 
Well this sucks. Swapped the new boards in and same problem. Runs for a few seconds and then shuts off. The power lights on the relay boards click off and it takes a few seconds for them to click on. Got a few thoughts.

First is maybe the wiring is wrong. When in forward, only one of the LED lights (there is one per relay) clicks on (board 1 relay 1) and both motors are driving forward. It dies quickly this way. Switch to reverse and then LED 2 on board 1 lights up along with LED 1 on board 2 but only the motor connected to board 1 spins. It takes a lot more effort to shut down this way but it does shut down eventually. Im wondering if one of the butt connectors I’ve got isn’t allowing a good connection somewhere.

Second thought is maybe the battery can’t discharge fast enough to keep up.

Thoughts?

Can you post a link to the motors and the relay boards? I would like to see the specs on them and their wiring diagrams.
 
Well this sucks. Swapped the new boards in and same problem. Runs for a few seconds and then shuts off. The power lights on the relay boards click off and it takes a few seconds for them to click on. Got a few thoughts.

First is maybe the wiring is wrong. When in forward, only one of the LED lights (there is one per relay) clicks on (board 1 relay 1) and both motors are driving forward. It dies quickly this way. Switch to reverse and then LED 2 on board 1 lights up along with LED 1 on board 2 but only the motor connected to board 1 spins. It takes a lot more effort to shut down this way but it does shut down eventually. Im wondering if one of the butt connectors I’ve got isn’t allowing a good connection somewhere.

Second thought is maybe the battery can’t discharge fast enough to keep up.

Thoughts?

From your description of how the LEDs are lighting I would suggest to double and even triple check your wiring. It's happened to me on more than one occasion. The way the LEDs should illuminate is for forward LED 1 board 1 and LED 1 board 2 to be on. For reverse LED 2 board 1 and LED 2 board 2 should be on. By the way, the relays aren't really doing anything when going forward since the normally closed position supplies power to the motors. Which brings me to my suggestion. If I understand your description correctly, only one LED is coming on in forward when there should be two. If that's true then something is seriously wrong. Either bad wiring, a bad LED, bad optocoupler (on the relay board), or a bad relay. I'd check with a multimeter without the motors connected to see that they function properly.

As for it shutting off, it could be the battery. Is it new or old? I read the specs on it and it's rated for 7Ah, which means that it can supply 7 amps for one hour. I also read that these motors combined together can draw upwards of 30 amps under load. So depending on the condition of the battery and how much current it can supply it might be the issue. Have you felt it getting hot when it shuts down or have you measured the voltage of it? You could always temporarily use one of your car batteries so you know that won't be the problem.

Another thing it could be, but I highly doubt, is the motors are shutting off. The window motors in our trucks have a thermal switch that will open when they draw too much current and get hot, then after they cool down they work again. Again, you could check the resistance across the motor leads when it shuts off (need to disconnect one lead from the relay module first).

If you want me to go over how you physically have your relay modules wired then get a clear pic(s) of the wiring and I'll do my best to read it. Also, the relay modules you have now - are they exactly like the ones in the link or are they red like the 10A ones in your previous post. If they're different than the link then a pic of that too so I can see the pinout.
 
Agreed on the LED's function on the board. At least that's how it should function in my mind.

Battery is new. It's just a lawn mower battery so nothing special. It's checking in at 12.69v. Doesn't feel hot.

I checked the resistance across the motor leads and they are .9 ohms.

The new relay boards are designed exactly like the old ones. The only difference is the new boards on the input side have a Common input that the old boards didn't. I didn't hook that up but maybe I can try that?

I have a feeling it's something in the wiring although not sure where. All the joints were soldered. Not that that means much but it would be the first time in 20 years I've had a cold solder joint.
 

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