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Project Smoke Wagon

1984 GMC Jimmy 383 Stroker | SM466
I suppose that you looked closely at the valve spool inside the governor? I had one that was sticking intermittently years ago even after cleaning and inspection. It worked fine out in your hand, but we believe that the problem arose when hydraulic pressure pushed on it.
I don't remember the exact symptoms but a new one fixed it.
Found the same thing on mine. Pull the governor out and fog it with brake clean and work the flyweights to cycle the valve inside. When you got it moving freely, soak the governor with fresh atf and stuff it back in.
 
I suppose that you looked closely at the valve spool inside the governor? I had one that was sticking intermittently years ago even after cleaning and inspection. It worked fine out in your hand, but we believe that the problem arose when hydraulic pressure pushed on it.
I don't remember the exact symptoms but a new one fixed it.


It appeared the valve worked as it should. It actuated upon closing the weights. I’ve adjusted the TV cable a billion times now. When I pulled the governor out this last time it smelled like burnt clutch.:doah:

I suspect a rebuild is now in order. Maybe have it on the road by summer? Lol
 
I probably just should have left that valve body bolt laying in the trans pan. That would have probably saved the transmission but instead I put it back in and retorqued the valve body. :rotfl:
 
Checking line pressure then I’m letting it cool down I’m dropping the pan inspecting the valves. Something tells me this junk universal TV cable is the culprit. Like it’s been stretched to far. I just don’t see how it can work one day beautifully and then completely stop the next. I would think there would be some intermittent issues that would make it obvious. Like slipping or shifting out of sequence or improper RPM range. The smell of burnt clutch does have me worried though. Oh well, if I have to rebuild it—it must be rebuilt.
 
So I checked the line pressure in each gear with the TV cable on and with it off. My line pressure never changed. Around 180-250 in every gear and around 90-110 in 1st and reverse . This leads me to believe the throttle valve is either not engaging or is stuck wide open.
 
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Those numbers appear to be on the maximum spectrum range which gives further evidence that the valve is stuck all the way in.
 
My theory is that after my initial adjustment that felt right when shifting it was still too tight. This caused the valve to stick. I think the spring is likely worn out or debris is blocking it from actuating back out to drop the pressure.

This is why I have normal operating pressure in 1st and Reverse and near maximum pressure in all other gears.

I imaging upon pulling the pan I will see the Throttle valve stuck all the way in. If not then I definitely have other issues. I would think major issues would cause huge drops in pressure not huge gains. I could be wrong.

Giving it an hour or so and I’ll check it.
 
IIRC shouldn’t the TV cable be resting on the plunger at 0 throttle?going to have my wife pull on the cable to see if it’s actually moving the linkage.

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It is moving the linkage. I see the spring compressing. And at first it felt as though the valve wasn’t moving. I plunged it manually a bunch and it now sounds and feels as though the valve is moving. Hmmm.....
 
Well, I took the TV linkage apart and I believe the valve was stuck wide open.

However, I do believe that the damage has already been done because of the color and smell of the fluid.

It appears this has the better 94 plunger than the 93. The 94 was designed to not stick but it has the older style housing and shorter spring which I find a little odd.

Why just put the better plunger in?

Definitely som wear marks on the housing. Like debris was stuck in between the housing and the valve body.

I think I’m going to clean out the best I can with some brake clean. Slap it back together and see what she gives me.

If yet another failure I will pull the trans and TC and proceed to rebuild them both.

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I’m hoping I can somehow drain my torque converter to better inspect that fluid. I do t remember seeing a drain plug on it but I’ll be looking back in my photos to see if I missed it.
 
Just find it very odd that it would stop shifting out of nowhere without any warning or symptoms.

Unless the TV cable itself stretched which I guess is a possibility.

I have no clue. I am totally stumped. It definitely wasn’t set up properly when I pulled the pan. That lever should have pressure on the plunger>spring>valve. It should be set nearly 1/4 - 1/2 plunged. Maybe the throw on my linkage is too long or not long enough?

Hmm..... much to ponder.
 
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That's lots O digging into it today!
Persistence is awesome!

I remember reading something on Bowtie Overdrives website about short spring syndrome. Did you see that, and did it give you any help?
 
Yeah, I just got it back together and I managed to get it to shift into second!

The problem is it shifts really late now. Have to rev it up super high to get it there. I don’t think all hope is lost. I believe the gears are there. It’s just getting this dam TV cable adjusted just so.
 
I set the TV cable according to bow tie overdrives. I made dam sure the plunger gets buried at WOT. Still not quite right though.
 
I think now it’s a bit too tight. I’m just going to back it off one click at a time marking each point with silver sharpie until it’s damn perfect this time.
 
Ok I now have 1st and 2nd but 3rd is nowhere to be found. Doesn’t shift up into 3rd. I’m going to keep going with the clicks because it seems like it’s getting close. I’m about 6 clicks towards the firewall (universal style button moving rearward) from my initial starting point.
 
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