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Project Snow Bear K20!

The NV4500 mounts in the same location as the 465. So no need to move the cross member. The difference is that on your '81 you should have a flat cross member with 2 separate tranny mounts. The 4500 mounts higher than that so a 3.5"ish spacer between the mounts and tranny is needed to take up the difference. That's it
I still have concerns with the ford NP 205 (drivers drop) going in there.
 
Also wondering if the radius arm could benefit from being 6-8" longer mounting it behind the stock location of the crossmember or in front of the stock crossmember location.
 
I would place it under the front cab body mount. Not sure why but further back just seems silly.
 
With all this bad weather we are having I think I am going over to my buddy's place and do some resto work on the bed I will be using on the truck. The bottom of the tool boxes are pretty rough. They need to be cut out and replaced. While I am there I am thinking of replacing the wood bed with steel. Then angle the rear tool box on each side at 45 degrees to relieve a little of the departure angle on the long bed. Good thing my buddy's fab shop is VAST and stupid amounts of steel on racks. It's like candy land for fabricators. The only issue is my truck bed might be frozen to the ground....LOL it's -12 at his place today. I guess we'll find out.

I can't really do much at my place right now. I have to keep more important things in the shop than my project truck right now and until the weather warms up all I can do is plan, spend money and wait.
 
Also here is a short video of the f-350 steering. This has been on my mind as I essentially have to reproduce this as much as possible. I will be adding a 2wd box to get the side to side action that I need, so since I have all of the factory brackets and steering (drag link, steering stabilizer and all) I'm not seeing a reason I need to go full crossover steering. The plan is to try using all of the stock components first and see where that takes me. The location of the track bar looks like it might work too. Of course if it just doesn't fit then I will rethink all of this but right now, measuring what I have....it just might.

 
Yeah you should be able to mimic the Ford setup no problem and just modify as needed for your space and frame. You will have to lengthen the draglink and track bar since the steering gear is outside the frame but I would just keep it simple.
 
Yeah you should be able to mimic the Ford setup no problem and just modify as needed for your space and frame. You will have to lengthen the draglink and track bar since the steering gear is outside the frame but I would just keep it simple.

Yup and in the ford the pitman arm faces forward.
 
Had a good discussion with a buddy of mine locally today and I seem to just acquire more questions than answers. he has a recommendation to try the coil over shock/strut from a 2011 f-150 or raptor truck. I started looking at pics and besides the larger mounting area on top, I don't know why it wouldn't work honestly. It would surely increase my loading capacity and I'm not looking for a uber flexy truck, just a good ride and a mild wheeler that will do a lot of jobs. here is a pic he sent me. Give me some reasons why I couldn't use a setup like this?

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Not positive but I think the spring rate would be way too heavy being that it came from an IFS setup? But I don’t know that much about the specs on IFS stuff?
 
Not positive but I think the spring rate would be way too heavy being that it came from an IFS setup? But I don’t know that much about the specs on IFS stuff?

Possibly, that's why I am asking some questions. His thought was that the raptor and my truck would be very similar weight wise. The raptor stock coil overs are freakin fox coil overs and cand be had for 250 bucks complete as a take out. That seems pretty dang reasonable to me.
 
Coilover springs are pretty cheap! Maybe you can swap them out and dial it in where you want?
 
Spring rate and valving are way off and low travel. More trouble than it's worth imo. The raptor parts have the best chance at being used but have no benefits other than price.
 
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