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Rear End Noise

YZEATER said:
anybody thinking that with the pinion pointed up so high that it wasn't getting enough gear oil, and that's why it went bad?

Nah, its not pointed near high enough for pinion bearing lubrication to be a culprit. The gears were probably setup incorrectly.

Good luck on getting it put back together :thumb:
 
that's a probable

but also, the thing that changed, I'm still thinking, is the prop shaft. Are we certain the noise wasn't there before you did the R&R on the shaft? And after you put the shaft back in, how long did it take before you noticed the noise? Was it a gradually increasing thing, or was it there from the start? An Unbalanced prop shaft can cause pinion bearings & u-joints to self-destruct.
 
Copasetic said:
Well I just got back from a buddy's shop and had him ride with me. We hadn't gone maybe 50-75 yards and he said "pinion bearing!". Great. We got it up on the rack so he could check the play in the yoke. He grabbed where the drive shaft bolts to the yoke and moved it up and down and he said the bearings were shot. Good thing I was able to get some overtime in on my next paycheck. :(

damn man:mad: that makes sense tho. i remember when i first got the axle back from the shop, i tried to get the pinion nut off to swap to a 1410 yoke, and i couldnt get it off so i just stuck with the stock 1350. maybe what happened was that the shop tightened it too tight:mad:
 
user said:
but also, the thing that changed, I'm still thinking, is the prop shaft. Are we certain the noise wasn't there before you did the R&R on the shaft? And after you put the shaft back in, how long did it take before you noticed the noise? Was it a gradually increasing thing, or was it there from the start? An Unbalanced prop shaft can cause pinion bearings & u-joints to self-destruct.

It was there time I put the shaft in and got it on the road. There is no play on the u joints at all and when I noticed the noise I went back home and changed out the u joint closest to the rear end just for S&G.
 
muddybuddy said:
damn man:mad: that makes sense tho. i remember when i first got the axle back from the shop, i tried to get the pinion nut off to swap to a 1410 yoke, and i couldnt get it off so i just stuck with the stock 1350. maybe what happened was that the shop tightened it too tight:mad:

Sounds about right to me. Too much when setting the preload. Oh yeah, empty your PM box on here cause it's full and check your e-mail! :D
 
Well I talked to my guy today about replacing my pinion bearings and it's all a go. To save me money I'm just going to bring the pinion housing and all to him
and he's going to replace the bearings while I wait. He told me how to take the rest of it down since while I have it torn down I might as well replace all of the bearings in it just in case. I was going to take it to him tomorrow and get it done but while I have it apart I'm going to upgrade to a u bolt style 1350 yoke and get rid of the OEM strap style yoke. I should get it in next week. While I have the truck down I might as well start going through the front too. There is a little play in the driver's side front wheel that looks like it's coming from the knuckle and not the tie rod. I'm thinking that I may just need to replace the kingpin washer, spring, and bushing. I'll do that first and see how that goes. I'll keep y'all posted! :D
 
Well the hits just keep on coming. I took my pinion assembly to go get the new bearings put on so I can button up my 14 bolt. Time the guy laid eyes on the pinion he told my my gears were shot. Great. Said judging by the wear on the pinion gears that they were set too tight. So now I have to order a new ring and pinion and a master install kit and get this thing together asap. My wheels are "supposed" to be shipped (cough, cough) this week. One good thing about all of this is I'm getting some much needed learning on the internals of my rig. If I break anything on the trail I'll know what to look for and I'll know what tools to bring ahead of time. another plus side is that everything will be fresh and I know it for a fact because I'm the one doing it. Not to mention I just put the front hubs back together yesterday after spending $100 on bearings, races, and seals after I tore the driver's side front hub down and found nothing but mud and rust. Oh this has NOT been a good week. Oh and did I mention that my ole lady said she and the kids were moving out day before yesterday? Oh well, life goes on I reckon. Oh yeah, here are some pics of the pinion.

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