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so holley sniper feedback has me thinking . . . fire in the hole . . . BOOM !

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i have started to notice a trend of bad sniper units . i ever surfed the holley sniper forum and a LOT of dead units and pissed off people .

lots of dead injectors / o2 readings way out / dead ecm after perfect drive . . . .

1 guy even said he was so glad he didnt let the sniper control the timing system . he was tossing the sniper unit and going back to carb .

i know @mrk5 had his just take a dump . anyone else here ?

i need to know before i install this unit for good and have problems mid winter . its going in my plow truck and d.d use also . its my only vehicle i have on the road for now .

the fitech problems drove me away from them and to the sniper unit . but it looks like the sniper just takes a bit longer to die .

its to bad our old member passed away who was the BEST tbi guy as i would have stayed tbi and had a chip burnt .
 
Honestly I'm not too concerned yet. The problem with those forums is that only people having trouble are going to post there. Very, very few people are going to go to the trouble of registering and posting up, hey my Sniper EFI works great.

The fact that I didn't have any trouble with the tech guys when I called has me encouraged. Plus the fact they are fixing it out of warranty. I didn't figure in the end that FiTech and the Sniper were really going to have much difference in reliability. I've just had good experience with Holley tech in the past and I know the company is going to be around 10 years from now.

Now if I have a second failure, I will be concerned.
 
IMO it doesn't matter what system you go with because they're all going to have some that fail. If I was in the market for another stand alone TBI based EFI system I would choose FiTech since they are the ones that pushed the industry so we have an affordable self learning EFI system available to us. Plus the fact that my experience with Holley was terrible when dealing with a $4K system that ran poorly.....
 
I’ll concur with what @mrk5 said about how we only really hear the negative thats posted on forums
Remember the guys going to FI, half of them couldn’t tune a carburetor, and its their feedback about how a particular system is a problem

Sounds like @6872xtc is gonna beat his head on the wall for the TBI, and may have some tuner insight for you @sweetk30
 
you only here the bad on those forums...........but make your own choice
they all have problems holley, fitech, fast......
 
Bent77 said:
Remember the guys going to FI, half of them couldn’t tune a carburetor, and its their feedback about how a particular system is a problem
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I ordered a Holley carb for the 73 on eBay that is sold by Holley as a factory refurb. In the description it said that most of the carbs they refurb are warranty returns:

Generally, they were simply adjusted out of working range by the installer.
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I thought that was funny. I was like, yeah I can see that.
 
I helped my cousin install a fitech and it worked flawlessly.

The way I see it, regardless of which system you choose, the system is depending on you, the installer, to get a LOT of details right. For every person out there that has a problem you have to wonder how many installed it on a junkyard engine, how many of them have 2-3 vacuum leaks they aren't aware of, how many of them did not do a proper wiring job, how many of them have an old emission component they aren't aware of that's messing with engine vacuum in the background while the unit is trying to learn? How many don't have their distributor tuned correctly?

Etc.. Etc.. its very easy for all of these user-created problems to bubble up as "bad customer support" for the manufacturer. It is not the system's responsibility to mask a vacuum leak or flattened cam lobe. It IS their responsibility to replace a faulty part and from what I've heard they've all been pretty good about doing that so long as you aren't the guy that immediately blames the product for a problem it didn't cause.
 
i have jumped forward with this and am still going to give it a go .

got my fuel line adapters for the sniper unit . got my ep381 pump for the sending unit . goot my 9 micron fuel filter for the feed before sniper unit . got my brand new tank ready .
 
Strongly concur with the above statements about user error.

Exaggerating (slightly) 99.99% of the time, if EFI is involved, and it starts running bad, it's an ECM/O2/TPS/MAP problem. We've all seen it. Check engine light is on, problem is definitely exactly what the code says is causing it. Actual diagnosis out the window, throw $$$ (parts) at it.

Starting with a known quantity engine (good oil pressure, ignition and charging systems work properly, valves adjusted properly) makes it a lot easier IMO to step back, and realize that if something isn't working right, it's something you've done since it last worked properly. Most likely not the parts you put on it, but how that was done, or something connected to what you did.

Don't cut corners/take your time, my suspicion is it will turn out to be a rewarding project. :)
 
Received my warranty return from Holley. The paperwork says: "Replaced ECU... Passed test sending unit back & new O2" So, they are even including a new O2 sensor. All that and it was technically out of warranty. We'll be putting some miles on it come June for the trek to the Rubicon.
 
mrk5 said:
Received my warranty return from Holley. The paperwork says: "Replaced ECU... Passed test sending unit back & new O2" So, they are even including a new O2 sensor. All that and it was technically out of warranty. We'll be putting some miles on it come June for the trek to the Rubicon.
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Your not going to drive your truck until June?
 
mrk5 said:
Received my warranty return from Holley. The paperwork says: "Replaced ECU... Passed test sending unit back & new O2" So, they are even including a new O2 sensor. All that and it was technically out of warranty. We'll be putting some miles on it come June for the trek to the Rubicon.
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I have a 454 Q-Jet on my shelf if you need it :rotfl:
 
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