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Talk me out of an nv4500

IMG_6374.jpegSorry boys, someone got there before me. I was the first through the gate this morning. They must have pulled it yesterday. I can’t compete with some of these guys, they hang out at the yard all day and resell parts. I gotta work.
 
It do be like that. Here, trucks usually drop on Wednesday, gotta pull on Thursday.
 
IMG_6376.jpegOn a completely separate but still square body related topic I found this. The one on the top is from a 79or80 k5 the one on the bottom is from an 84’ suburban. I had the bottom one but today at the yard I seen the top one and was like wow… where’d you come from. I didn’t know there was a difference in years. This is the vent that stretches across the column. The round thing can spin and direct air where you want it.
 
View attachment 494215Sorry boys, someone got there before me. I was the first through the gate this morning. They must have pulled it yesterday. I can’t compete with some of these guys, they hang out at the yard all day and resell parts. I gotta work.
We need results not excuses:haha:
 
Isn’t it driver side drop?
Yes - I was just thinking of it having a chance at good resale value since they are more rare and fairly stout.

As for the other question about mechanical shifter v/s electric the only ones that I have ever paid attention to have been mechanical - don’t know if any ever had an actuator or not on the BW4401/4470’s

The rear output shafts weren’t the size of late model NVG-271/273’s but the only problem I ever potentially heard of was the oil pump slinger/tube not doing its thing if someone didn’t put one back together carefully.
 
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@tarussell would you say significantly stronger than 241? I had looked into a 271/273 for my build, forget why I wrote it off. Maybe i had assumed the same issue for the BW
 
I rebuilt a 271 a while back. I remember them being almost identical to the 241, except for the electro-shift BS. I remember thinking “if they could perfect that part, these would be something”
 
@tarussell would you say significantly stronger than 241? I had looked into a 271/273 for my build, forget why I wrote it off. Maybe i had assumed the same issue for the BW
They had a higher torque rating than the 241’s but I don’t recall the internals being substantially different - the case was a stronger material and the bearings were slightly larger.
Other than those things the planetarys seemed about the same in size and six count IIRC with a 2.68:1 ratio - shafts sizing was similar but I think the chain and sprockets were wider ( especially on the 4470 model ).

I believe the 271/273 and their replacement ( can’t think of what the name changed to in the later years - these cases were being upgraded as time went by and motors got stronger with higher GVWR #’s ) cases are stronger though.
The rear output shafts are the huge 34-spline units and are really stout!

Problem with using a 271/273 in our squares and OBS Fords is that the cases are so wide that they don’t fit between the frame rails that easily.
 
Makes one wonder if someone has an “in” with the picknpull peeps
No doubt that goes on all the time.
Back in the 90’s I was fortunate enough to be on the receiving end on that type of deal at a scrap yard.
There was a strict “ no pulling of parts” policy on any vehicle or load brought in but there were times when we would get a call for things set aside.
The deal was that we could have the vehicle for 24hrs. and take whatever we wanted as long as the carcass came back while certain operators were working - it was good to know people all over the automotive community; we all took care of each other and helped out friends of friends whenever possible. Nothing crooked goin on ( at least on our end - well maybe the scrap yard lost some weight on occasion ) just folks look’n out for each other and returning favors like no charge towing or labor on repair work ( all with the owners blessings ).
 
There is guys that sit at the yard all day long. They are like brokers. People will have them look for parts and they have others that pull them. It’s like an entire industry. And also the place I go doesn’t post what they set till 9am and they open at 8am. I know guys have the inside scoop because I have been there when they are waiting at the gate and walk right to a car/truck and it was just set that morning and they already know where and what they are pulling. But that’s the world we live in.
 
Story time:
I met the most knowledgeable man I have ever met at a scrap yard. He sat under an 18 wheeler trailer in the shade waiting for the next person to drop a load of steel.
He could tell what ratio and axle a ring and pinion was from just by holding it in his hand.
He knew everything about everything and put his kids through college hustling parts. Taught me just enough to make it on my own.
 
Story time:
I met the most knowledgeable man I have ever met at a scrap yard. He sat under an 18 wheeler trailer in the shade waiting for the next person to drop a load of steel.
He could tell what ratio and axle a ring and pinion was from just by holding it in his hand.
He knew everything about everything and put his kids through college hustling parts. Taught me just enough to make it on my own.
I have no problem with people making a living however they do and in no way am I sour about it…but it does suck when your a weekend warrior and you can’t beat these guys to the punch but I am happy they are doing what they do other wise these yard probably couldn’t make it. The exact yard I visit used to look like the yard from “stand by me” the movie. The guy who owned it was mean but fair. I liked him. He would yell at any one for any reason, I remember going there with my dad and watching the both of them yell at each other for what seemed like no reason. He eventually got old and sold it. But everyone has to make a living.
 

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