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The Green Grendel

Ill have to check in the shed but it's looking like all of mine have the slave cylinder on the passenger side. Sorry man.
 
When Larry and I did the 465 swap on his K10 back in Michigan many moons ago I remember lifting the trans in by standing inside the truck with the turtle shell off and lifting at the shifter. Larry was underneath taking the brunt of the weight with his regular floor jack. My job was to guide the input shaft into the clutch while Larry did the heavy lifting. It was a circus act but it worked. It's a two person job to be safe.
 
When Larry and I did the 465 swap on his K10 back in Michigan many moons ago I remember lifting the trans in by standing inside the truck with the turtle shell off and lifting at the shifter. Larry was underneath taking the brunt of the weight with his regular floor jack. My job was to guide the input shaft into the clutch while Larry did the heavy lifting. It was a circus act but it worked. It's a two person job to be safe.

That's why I'm dreading it. And today's mishap is not increasing my confidence level. It will be fine, it's not the first tranny I've done. But it sure is the loneliest. :haha:

I'll be sure to enlist Wifey when the time comes.
 
Working on the ground sucks. Sucks worse if it's not paved. Jacks don't roll and end up pushing down as much as they try to push up. Get a chunk of plywood to work on at least. The jack will at least roll and the weight gets spread out over the wood so it won't sink in.

Do what you can to support the weight so it's not going to fall and cause more damage. Or hurt yourself!
 
Working on the ground sucks. Sucks worse if it's not paved. Jacks don't roll and end up pushing down as much as they try to push up. Get a chunk of plywood to work on at least. The jack will at least roll and the weight gets spread out over the wood so it won't sink in.

Do what you can to support the weight so it's not going to fall and cause more damage. Or hurt yourself!

Setting up the lift safely will probably be more work than aligning it. The ground is sloped, and my plywood can't really fix that.

Is there some magic way to get it up on the tranny jack? At this point it looks like I'm just stuck levering it up and shoving the jack under it. I'd love to think there's a better and safer method out there somewhere. :dunno:
 
Ok, this is redneck at it's best. But being alone mostly you got to do some stuff to help you do it. Here's a thought I had. Get a couple of jack stands and a 2x4. The idea is to set the jackstands on the floor of the truck on either side of the trans hump. Bridge the gap between the two stands with the 2x4. Make sure the wood is nestled in the saddles of the stands so it can't slip out. Position the trans under the hole. Now take a heavy ratchet strap to wrap under the trans and over the 2x4. If you could make a sling with a couple of smaller straps around the trans it would be more stable, but if you balance it right you should be able to lift with just the strap. Only lift high enough to get the floor jack positioned under it quickly and take the weight off the lifting strap.

It's sketchy as hell, but could work. It would be safer to sling it somehow. I was thinking a couple of smaller ratchet straps around the trans itself, one on each end. Then run your lifting strap through both smaller straps following the length of the trans. Loop the lifting strap over the board and slowly lift up. Less chance of it slipping out the front or back side if it wasn't perfectly balanced.
 
Not in any way your fault. I slipped up (literally), and I broke things. That's life. If I hadn't bumped the jack it wouldn't have broken. 100% my fault.

The reason that I have it all integrated together is that reverse-drilling the bell housing bolts requires me to install it that way (bolt heads are inside bell housing). I'd love to bolt up the BH, set up the clutch and bleed out the hydraulics before installing the gearbox. Would make life a bunch easier to do that before the space gets filled with gearbox. But that's one thing that I lost by using the SM465 bell housing with the NV4500.

You're running a custom AA bell housing, right? With mechanical clutch? I wish I had taken the time to look at that last week.
Yup AA bell housing with a bracket. Its nice that it all bolted together but it was like $350ish for it. Even if you get a new 465 housing and drill it you'd still be getting away cheaper.
 
Ok, this is redneck at it's best. But being alone mostly you got to do some stuff to help you do it. Here's a thought I had. Get a couple of jack stands and a 2x4. The idea is to set the jackstands on the floor of the truck on either side of the trans hump. Bridge the gap between the two stands with the 2x4. Make sure the wood is nestled in the saddles of the stands so it can't slip out. Position the trans under the hole. Now take a heavy ratchet strap to wrap under the trans and over the 2x4. If you could make a sling with a couple of smaller straps around the trans it would be more stable, but if you balance it right you should be able to lift with just the strap. Only lift high enough to get the floor jack positioned under it quickly and take the weight off the lifting strap.

It's sketchy as hell, but could work. It would be safer to sling it somehow. I was thinking a couple of smaller ratchet straps around the trans itself, one on each end. Then run your lifting strap through both smaller straps following the length of the trans. Loop the lifting strap over the board and slowly lift up. Less chance of it slipping out the front or back side if it wasn't perfectly balanced.

Yikes. Yeah, that is sketchy. Really sketchy on this truck, as the floor pan is rotting out. But I'll keep the idea in the back of my mind if the situation gets desperate enough.
 
Yikes. Yeah, that is sketchy. Really sketchy on this truck, as the floor pan is rotting out. But I'll keep the idea in the back of my mind if the situation gets desperate enough.

Yeah, I assumed the floors were in decent shape. Being in Colorado I tend to be spoiled in the sheet metal department. If the floor is swiss cheese my idea will cause more problems than it helps.
 
You can also tie ratchet straps around the frame to start to lift it. Won't get it very high but high enough to get the tranny jack under it.

Or just hit the gym for say 3 months train hard and just bench press it in. There's also steroids for this method.

Oh wait CALL SOMEONE. dude this is a 2 man job. Especially in your situation. Start going through people you know or barely know. Get somebody over there to help you.

I have done probably a dozen trans of all sorts by myself with no lift.

Guess what I usually break somethin, which you have already done. Or occasionally break myself.

Man go to church tomorrow and ask for help
 
Too bad you don't have an engine hoist. That's how mine is going in. I hate transmission jacks for manual transmissions.
 
Too bad you don't have an engine hoist. That's how mine is going in. I hate transmission jacks for manual transmissions.

I very well might own an engine hoist soon. Dropping the aluminum case was bad enough. I don't like sketchy methods, the lumpy floor has made this job sketchy enough already. :doah:

Did you look through the shed yet?
 
I once used a couple of straps to the shed rafters hold a chunk of square tube through the door openings so I could use a chain hoist attached to the tube to lift the NP435 into my dodge. Worked like a charm for the trans and NP203
 
I very well might own an engine hoist soon. Dropping the aluminum case was bad enough. I don't like sketchy methods, the lumpy floor has made this job sketchy enough already. :doah:

Did you look through the shed yet?
Yeah sorry. No luck. That's a bummer! Was hoping to help you out!
 
I once used a couple of straps to the shed rafters hold a chunk of square tube through the door openings so I could use a chain hoist attached to the tube to lift the NP435 into my dodge. Worked like a charm for the trans and NP203
This. I've successfully used rafters to unload air compressors and engines. I like using a racket strap or come-along for adjustability. That should give you the third hand you need.

David
 
I used two jacks, one the trans was strapped to, and the tcase was supported by the other, I also left the crossmember connected to the case to allow more leverage, stop it from twisting.
Lined it up and while in gear rotated the input shaft slowly and pushed and pulled from both sides, took my time, didnt get mad. took my about an hour to get it in and completely bolted up.
 
Oh i used the boss off the bottom middle side of the case, there is a flange dealie cast into the case almost perfect to balance it.
 
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