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The new shop. Progress.
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Picked this bad boy up today. It's our 33rd anniversary, so I bought myself a present.
200,000 BTU waste oil heater. One year old. The heater was easy to load, just slid it off onto the flatbed. Went back with the trailer for the tank. Is half full. Good thing I have a winch on the trailer. Broke 2 4 wheel furniture dollies try to roll it.
200,000 BTU waste oil heater. One year old. The heater was easy to load, just slid it off onto the flatbed. Went back with the trailer for the tank. Is half full. Good thing I have a winch on the trailer. Broke 2 4 wheel furniture dollies try to roll it.
if its got a built in air compressor by pass it and feed it shop air . most of them are LOUD and break down . place i use to work had 2 units 1 shop air and 1 built in air . we all hated that loud built in air unit .
and i hope you got a good supply of good clean oil . make sure you watch all the oil you put in the tank . also dont direct dump in to the main tank . i found after years of working with them they like it better with the oil mixed up and settled out . so he had a settling tank this let us mix all the oil for 1 main batch of mix and drain out any goo we didnt want . the heater will run more smooth and regular with mixed batches as its a consitant thickness .
and the shop build out is looking good my friend
and i hope you got a good supply of good clean oil . make sure you watch all the oil you put in the tank . also dont direct dump in to the main tank . i found after years of working with them they like it better with the oil mixed up and settled out . so he had a settling tank this let us mix all the oil for 1 main batch of mix and drain out any goo we didnt want . the heater will run more smooth and regular with mixed batches as its a consitant thickness .
and the shop build out is looking good my friend
The forklift is the best investment yet. 
if its got a built in air compressor by pass it and feed it shop air . most of them are LOUD and break down . place i use to work had 2 units 1 shop air and 1 built in air . we all hated that loud built in air unit .
and i hope you got a good supply of good clean oil . make sure you watch all the oil you put in the tank . also dont direct dump in to the main tank . i found after years of working with them they like it better with the oil mixed up and settled out . so he had a settling tank this let us mix all the oil for 1 main batch of mix and drain out any goo we didnt want . the heater will run more smooth and regular with mixed batches as its a consitant thickness .
and the shop build out is looking good my friend
Shop air. I have the little pump also. The settling and blending tank is a must.
Good thing is, I paid less than 1/2 of what he paid new.
the shop i use to work at we had a 55gal drum no lid . we dumped in there then pumped out to storage tanks threw filter screen . then we pumped back from tanks threw screen to furnace as needed all winter . if it was winter and needed oil we would pump 55 gal to the heater direct but that was good clean oil from fresh oil changes . but no direct to tank after we saw how much crap was in the bottom of the tank 1 year mid winter when the unit wouldn't run . we drained the whole 250 gal tank down and opened all the ports and drain plug . we had a small land scape of hills / valleys / rivers all formed from sludge / gasket chunks / garbage all from direct dump in tank for years before the new rule of no more direct dump was made that day . the valleys and rivers were all full of green anti-freeze and 1 small lake of it was in the suction spot for the pump . i cleaned that tank out like new and got over 30 gal of junk / sludge out of it . the heater never skipped a beat again since it was getting 100% clean / filtered / settled out oil .
ya know with the fork truck now would be the time to drain and clean the tank if you have time and a few 55 gal drums . just so you know 100% its good to go ready .
There were guys on the steelsoldiers forum that would run waste oil in the deuces. Many had a large centrifugal filter for oil that did the trick fairly quickly.
waste oil for heaters sits most of the time so let gravity do the work .
also if you start running low you can mix fuel oil or diesel in the heater tank and run it . it will be just fine .
also if you start running low you can mix fuel oil or diesel in the heater tank and run it . it will be just fine .
I want to be able to move the oil tank to clean under it without disconnecting the power or oil feed line. Power is no big deal, but the oil pump shows 100psi to 150psi operating pressure. Fuel injection hose only rates to 100psi. What do the people in the know say about using 3/8" air hose? Rated to 250psi. Is it oil resistant inside enough to not break down the liner. I know it is designed for tool oil to run through it, but that is so minimal.
Thoughts.
Thoughts.
I am concerned about the line itself going away. Connections I can handle.
Did not think about the transmission cooler hose. That is why I asked here.
Did not think about the transmission cooler hose. That is why I asked here.
When I lived in Moab the guys at Napa there had some fuel hose that had a black braid on the outside but it was still soft enough to handle hose clamps fine. I'd go with trans cooler hose like Justin said.
WHAT psi ? ? ? ? never seen a waste oil heater that high . the feed to the burner gun is under 5psi max pressure running is 1.5-3.0 psi on average .
It regulates at the upper unit. They recommend copper line.
move the reg down to the tank side and do a low psi flex line with quick coupler . thats how they have done it on the units i have always used .
I finally found the correct manual on line. This is a Lanair MXD 200. I kept finding manuals for a MX 200, but not with the D. Lanier sent me a link from their site. The MX manual said no ducting allowed. The wiring schematic did not match mine. The D in the model number is for "ducting". Bonus. But it needs a second 20 amp power feed for the higher output blower. Now it makes sense.
Also went through the extra box he gave me. Has hard lines in it to move the regulator to the tank.
So now I only need 25psi hose.
Also went through the extra box he gave me. Has hard lines in it to move the regulator to the tank.
So now I only need 25psi hose.
I wouldn't use air hose on hot oil...it can handle high pressure,but not heat so much..
I used a hunk to patch a rusted leaking transmission cooler line (all that was handy at the place it started leaking)--and drove my truck about 80 miles home,and when I arrived,I went to put a section of new tubing on with compression fittings,and found the air hose had swelled up like a mini football,looked like it was ready to pop any second!..
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Good thing I decided to repair the line "right" that night instead of putting it off until after work the next day!..probably wouldn't have made it to work or home,and the transmission had already suffered enough from losing fluid the first time when the tubing started leaking--bet it would have finished it off..
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Regular fuel hose can take about 50 psi,but it doesn't stand up to high heat or hot oil that well either--transmission cooler hose or engine oil cooler hose handles the heat,but I think they'll pop around 250 psi..
I used a hunk to patch a rusted leaking transmission cooler line (all that was handy at the place it started leaking)--and drove my truck about 80 miles home,and when I arrived,I went to put a section of new tubing on with compression fittings,and found the air hose had swelled up like a mini football,looked like it was ready to pop any second!..
..Good thing I decided to repair the line "right" that night instead of putting it off until after work the next day!..probably wouldn't have made it to work or home,and the transmission had already suffered enough from losing fluid the first time when the tubing started leaking--bet it would have finished it off..
..Regular fuel hose can take about 50 psi,but it doesn't stand up to high heat or hot oil that well either--transmission cooler hose or engine oil cooler hose handles the heat,but I think they'll pop around 250 psi..
The oil is ambient through this hose.
I browsed through most of the waste oil stuff.
My experiences,
Gravity feed the oil to the pump through a serviceable filter. Shut off valve just before filter. WHEN, water or trash accumulates itll be quicker and easier to fix.
Determine a frequent maintenance schedule. Oil jet needs attention from time to time. Afore mentioned filter as well. Don't forget to look at the igniters and clean out the combustion chamber.
I got very good at identifying the problems mine had and fixing them quickly. It is cheap heat if your time has no value. I'll never mess with one again.
My experiences,
Gravity feed the oil to the pump through a serviceable filter. Shut off valve just before filter. WHEN, water or trash accumulates itll be quicker and easier to fix.
Determine a frequent maintenance schedule. Oil jet needs attention from time to time. Afore mentioned filter as well. Don't forget to look at the igniters and clean out the combustion chamber.
I got very good at identifying the problems mine had and fixing them quickly. It is cheap heat if your time has no value. I'll never mess with one again.
