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The restoration/modification of Daisy.

Daystar has an air bag pocket thing that let's the bag land in a nice soft spot and allow full articulation.

This sounds like a good plan.

The "restricted" rear axle feeling of airbags sucks even on the street. I made ONE trip in a suburban setup like that, and hated it. Tore the bags off immediately when i got home.
 
This sounds like a good plan.

The "restricted" rear axle feeling of airbags sucks even on the street. I made ONE trip in a suburban setup like that, and hated it. Tore the bags off immediately when i got home.

I've had bags on several rigs and couldn't tell they were there unless I had air in them.
 
What leafs do you have now?

Stiffer springs mean stiffer ride but more load capacity. Air bags if you can fit them increase the load with out the ride sacrifice.

With the Toy how much serious Off road is the burb going to do ?
 
What's wrong with your master cylinder?

It's the original unit made for drum brakes and I have discs now. I couldn't lock the rear brakes if I stood on the pedal with both feet. There's also the fact that when the rear pads got worn down about half way the rear part of the MC ran dry. I've heard that a master from a later model 1 ton van is a nice improvement but I'm not sure on a part number.

What leafs do you have now?

Stiffer springs mean stiffer ride but more load capacity. Air bags if you can fit them increase the load with out the ride sacrifice.

With the Toy how much serious Off road is the burb going to do ?

The original 56" 3/4 ton springs. I've thought about new ones but I think air bags might be the way to go. Especially if I can fit them with those daystar cup things. The suburban will still wheel the easier trails and go camping. It's a capable rig, I won't sideline it altogether.
 
What you said makes sense. Disc brakes require more fluid volume than drum cylinders. @JoshHefnerX found a master that worked for him, but it had clearance issues under the hood. He had to clock it down or something. You have a body lift so I bet it'll clear. Mine is from a p30 disc disc van but it's made for hydroboost. Just make sure the one you get matches your booster. I believe the hydroboost systems utilize a shorter stroke.
 
What you said makes sense. Disc brakes require more fluid volume than drum cylinders. @JoshHefnerX found a master that worked for him, but it had clearance issues under the hood. He had to clock it down or something. You have a body lift so I bet it'll clear. Mine is from a p30 disc disc van but it's made for hydroboost. Just make sure the one you get matches your booster. I believe the hydroboost systems utilize a shorter stroke.

How does a body lift increase hood/firewall clearance? :dunno:
 
What you said makes sense. Disc brakes require more fluid volume than drum cylinders. @JoshHefnerX found a master that worked for him, but it had clearance issues under the hood. He had to clock it down or something. You have a body lift so I bet it'll clear. Mine is from a p30 disc disc van but it's made for hydroboost. Just make sure the one you get matches your booster. I believe the hydroboost systems utilize a shorter stroke.

I don't have a body lift.
 
reread the above posts and did some editing

3/4 ton leafs may be fine.
Blocks or shackle flip ?
Flip may be hard to get bags that fit may have to do some modding.
You could always find a set of 1-ton leafs and build a new pack. That would be the cheapest if your U-bolts are long enough.
 
reread the above posts and did some editing

3/4 ton leafs may be fine.
Blocks or shackle flip ?
Flip may be hard to get bags that fit may have to do some modding.
You could always find a set of 1-ton leafs and build a new pack. That would be the cheapest if your U-bolts are long enough.


Shackle flip. I'd probably have to build the upper bag mount bracket if I went that way. One thing that would help is new rear shock mounts. My rear shocks are inboarded at the top so they don't do much for sway control. I've been wanting to build new ones for a long time.
 
What you said makes sense. Disc brakes require more fluid volume than drum cylinders. @JoshHefnerX found a master that worked for him, but it had clearance issues under the hood. He had to clock it down or something. You have a body lift so I bet it'll clear. Mine is from a p30 disc disc van but it's made for hydroboost. Just make sure the one you get matches your booster. I believe the hydroboost systems utilize a shorter stroke.

The MC I found was extremely tall, but I made it work. My mc came from an 2004 2500. I thought all of the 2500's those years used hydroboost (maybe), and it still worked w/ my vacuum booster.. Reason I picked it was because it had a significantly larger bore diameter 1.4" I think, but it works well. Not too hard of a pedal and I'm able to modulate the brakes and can lock up my 37's no problem. But it took a lot of math to get there comparing the caliper pistons. And a little bit of faith... lol
 
The MC I found was extremely tall, but I made it work. My mc came from an 2004 2500. I thought all of the 2500's those years used hydroboost (maybe), and it still worked w/ my vacuum booster.. Reason I picked it was because it had a significantly larger bore diameter 1.4" I think, but it works well. Not too hard of a pedal and I'm able to modulate the brakes and can lock up my 37's no problem. But it took a lot of math to get there comparing the caliper pistons. And a little bit of faith... lol

Tall enough that hood clearance was an issue? I'll have to do some MC research.
 
Tall enough that hood clearance was an issue? I'll have to do some MC research.

Oh yeah, it never would have cleared if I hadn't spaced down the thing... Had to throw a couple of washers ontop of the upper studs on the firewall mount. Angled it down doing that - allowed it to clear, which brought it down far enough that I had to clearance that A/C bracket as they would have contacted on the bottom side. And it still touches the fire blanket on the hood.
 
i don't remember the year but my MC came off a P30 van with 4 wheel disc brakes, i think it was about as tall as the original MC
 
i don't remember the year but my MC came off a P30 van with 4 wheel disc brakes, i think it was about as tall as the original MC
I looked at those and it was 1.34 dia piston - may be ok, just more pedal travel.

I have the same one, I like it except the fact that the reservoir is metal. You have to pop the top to check the fluid.

My pedal feel is good too.
 
mine was a plastic one

*edit*
I found the one I had (didn't pay that much for it)

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/d...er_1441639_3150&keyword=brake+master+cylinder

BrakeBest Select - Brake Master Cylinder
Line: BHH | Part # NMC11316
  • limited lifetime warranty
  • UPC: 848074029639
  • Master Cylinder
  • Rear Wheel Drive
  • Stripped Chassis
  • Without ABS
  • Front Disc Brakes
  • Rear Disc Brakes
  • Motorhome
  • New Or Remanufactured: New
  • Bore Size (In): 1.570 Inch
  • Bore Size (mm): 39.878mm
  • Brake Booster Included: No
  • Reservoir Included: Yes


Additional Details
  • Body Color: Gray
  • Body Material: Aluminum
  • Bleeder Kit Included: Yes
  • Forward Outlet Thread Size: 1/2-20 Inch
  • Gasket Included: No
  • Hardware Included: No
  • Instructions Included: Yes
  • Number Of Mounting Holes: 2
  • Number Of Outlets: 2
  • Number Of Ports: 2
  • Primary Port Thread Size: 9/16-18 Inch
  • Pedal Rod Included: No
  • Rearward Outlet Thread Size: 9/16-18 Inch
  • Reservoir Type: Single
  • Reservoir Color: White
  • Reservoir Material: Plastic
  • Secondary Port Thread Size: 1/2-20 Inch
  • Sensor Included: No
 
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