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The Story Of A Cummins Suburban (Lots Of Pics)

This is a great thread. A project thread where the vehicle actually gets back on the road. And as a father of three now, I enjoy hearing about how you are getting your boy involved. I do have a couple of Q's for you. It looks like there is no sway bar under there. How do you like the way it drives w/o it and have you thought about putting one in?
 
This is a great thread. A project thread where the vehicle actually gets back on the road. And as a father of three now, I enjoy hearing about how you are getting your boy involved. I do have a couple of Q's for you. It looks like there is no sway bar under there. How do you like the way it drives w/o it and have you thought about putting one in?

Nope, no sway bar. I did consider/plan on putting one in it--until I drove it. With these springs and the shocks it has, I do not feel that there is any need for one now. I can run 75mph through the mountains with one hand on the wheel and there is no noticable lean or sway for a bar to counter act.

Yeah, a project that actually leaves the driveway--what a concept :haha:. I am real glad to have it drivable--so is the boy. Speaking him, he can be a big help when I need another body out there or grabbing that tool that is just out of reach or over on top of the vise or.... He really likes helping and I think it won't be long and I'll be able to give him his own projects to tackle.
We'll see.
 
Thanks for the detailed response. Looking forward to more of the MosesBurb adventures :waytogo:.
 
Thanks for the detailed response. Looking forward to more of the MosesBurb adventures :waytogo:.

Yeah, me too!!

I didn't get much time to work on it this weekend, but I did manage to get out on Sunday and got a couple things done. The upper shock mounts I installed have created a couple head scratchers so far. The biggest being the shock length. The shocks I had on the front were too long with the stock mounting and too short with the new shock mounting. I swapped the rears to the front and they looked good at first, but it didn't take long to realize they were too long. Great, buy some new parts to replace new parts. I bought some shorter shocks for it, but the newer design of the RS9000s are larger in diameter than the ones that I bought way back when. This creates a problem with the lower shock mount on the driver side. With the older design RS9000 shocks and the relocated upper mount, the draglink would just miss the bottom of the shock in right turn conditions. WIth the thicker body of the new RS9000 shock it was no longer a miss, but a full-on hit. After some playing around with angles and dimensions, I ended up lengthening the lower mount about 1/2" for clearance. No big deal, but it turned a twenty minute shock change into a three hour ordeal once I got done with it.

This shows the difference in body girth:

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This shows the final mounting, but I forgot to take a pic of the lower bracket: (the strange color is the bright sun bouncing off of the orange truck, reflecting off of a nearly white house into the wheel well area)

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Once upon a time, when I first built this thing, I ran hoses off of each vent nipple up to the underhood area. (front diff, trans, t/case, rear diff, fuel tank)

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While they were run up there, I had never finished the install. I had bought the vent caps back then but never installed them. I had some grandiose plans of how I was going to mount them, but I figured if I kept waiting to do that, I would never get them done. That being the case, I used a few zip-ties and got the job done in a lees-than-grandiose style:

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Somewhere in the passing years, one of the caps got pilfered for another project, so I still need one to finish it--but hey, it's much closer.

Yet another problem that the upper shock mounts created was I had to remove the grid heater solenoids for cold starting. Not really a problem at all when the thermometer doesn't see the south side of 95, but there is a possible adventure in the near future that just might require the use of them. That being the case, they need to go back in. I really like the original mounting location and bracket, but the bracket was not going to work. I figured out that I could put them back in the same vicinity, but a new bracket is in order. So after dinner I got back out there and whipped up this little gem:

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The pic isn't so good, but I was in a rush to get it done before my family duties came to call. I mounted it up and was able to reuse the wiring and cables from the original mounting configuration.

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It fits good, is very stout and doesn't grab your eye where it is at.

I did take some time and crawl around with a grease gun and I also installed some zip-ties here and there for good measure.

So, not a whole lot of progress, but with each little thing here and there, my to-do list is steadily shrinking.
 
when I did my vents I tied them all in together, but I like how you ran everything separate
 
when I did my vents I tied them all in together, but I like how you ran everything separate

Thanks. Yeah, I thought about running them together, but I figured this way if one of them starts throwing up, I'll know where to start looking for the problem.

So is crossover steering in the future?

He needs it doesn't he? :whistle:

I have not convinced myself that it is necessary yet. There is going to be some engineering involved to get a draglink around the bottom of that big friggin' motor. So as of right now, I'm not planning on it. But, one can never tell though.....
 
Well, kind of a sad update today (for me anyways).

Sometime this afternoon a huge storm blew through the valley and hit where I work really hard. It brought torrential rain and golf ball sized hail. I got back about an hour and a half after it finished and there was still four inches of it in shady spots in the parking lot.

Needless to say, vehicles got pretty destroyed--panels destroyed, mirrors busted off, headlights busted. There are two brand new Ford trucks in the lot that got banged up pretty bad. I thought mine might fare well because of it being made of old, thick metal, but no such luck. The hood looks like a golf ball, the windshield is destroyed, and it is kind of hard to tell, but it looks like the roof got it pretty good too.

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The busted up windshield scattered little shards of glass all over the interior of the truck. The wind blew so hard and the rain was so torrential that it blew right past the door seals on all three doors and soaked the seats. So, not only did I get to drive home looking through a busted up windshield at a dented hood, I got to do it sitting on a wet seat that was covered in glass.

Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day.
 
That sucks. Mother Nature can be a real bitch. It must be that time of month for her.
 
Hope you have full coverage :eek1:

the drag link should be an easy fix, ORD can bend you one that should fit around it pretty easy the only issue would be the clearance between the axle and oil pan.
 
Well, kind of a sad update today (for me anyways).

Sometime this afternoon a huge storm blew through the valley and hit where I work really hard. It brought torrential rain and golf ball sized hail. I got back about an hour and a half after it finished and there was still four inches of it in shady spots in the parking lot.

Needless to say, vehicles got pretty destroyed--panels destroyed, mirrors busted off, headlights busted. There are two brand new Ford trucks in the lot that got banged up pretty bad. I thought mine might fare well because of it being made of old, thick metal, but no such luck. The hood looks like a golf ball, the windshield is destroyed, and it is kind of hard to tell, but it looks like the roof got it pretty good too.

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The busted up windshield scattered little shards of glass all over the interior of the truck. The wind blew so hard and the rain was so torrential that it blew right past the door seals on all three doors and soaked the seats. So, not only did I get to drive home looking through a busted up windshield at a dented hood, I got to do it sitting on a wet seat that was covered in glass.

Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day.
that does suck man. a vendor i work with in phx sent me a video of the hail coming down in his parking lot.
crazyness.
 
He needs it doesn't he? :whistle:

You noticed that too? The front TRE looks like it has a bit of a bend in it from being over-articulated... :doah:

That sucks about the hail damage :frown1: We got by a bit easier here in the east valley. It hailed, but only pea-sized stuff. Not big enough to do any damage, fortunately.
 
That sucks. Mother Nature can be a real bitch. It must be that time of month for her.

Sorry to hear that, hope you can get it fixed up quickly.

We NEVER :rolleyes: get that kind of weather in the dezert...........

That really, really sucks.

Wow man, sorry to hear about the damage to your truck.:eek1:

that does suck man. a vendor i work with in phx sent me a video of the hail coming down in his parking lot.
crazyness.

Thanks guys. Yeah, it sucks, but realistically speaking it really isn't too bad. I checked it out this morning before we got in my other truck and it looks a little better than I thought. The hood is pretty bad, but I think the roof survived unscathed. The right quarter panel has quite a few pocks, but the doors look good. I did lose a part out of my grille, but there was no damage behind it. Mind you, this is all on the right side. The left side is the straight side and it is still straight. So all is not lost.

In one of the calls of condolences I received today, the question of what to do came up. The way I figure it, the only realistic option, keeping in mind my affection for common sense is to replace the glass and keep driving it. Unless I wanted to invest the huge amount of time required to straighten the whole truck and paint it or body swap it and paint it, there really is no reason to do anything to it. It all comes back to the fact that it is not a pretty truck (thank goodness). It's ugly. It doesn't stand much of a chance of changing its status from ugly anytime soon. Enjoy the divots and drive!!

So that is what I am going to do.

I feel really bad for some of my coworkers. Mine looks great compared to some of the cars and trucks. Nice looking vehicles, clean and shiny and they all have texture to them now. Sucks, bad.
 
Hope you have full coverage :eek1:

In this case it wouldn't do much good because it would turn into a total because of all the labor involved in hail damage repair. I am going to use the glass coverage and get a new windscreen, but beyond that, I think I am going to pass.

the drag link should be an easy fix, ORD can bend you one that should fit around it pretty easy the only issue would be the clearance between the axle and oil pan.

You noticed that too? The front TRE looks like it has a bit of a bend in it from being over-articulated... :doah:

Ok, well I am not convinced that I need x-over. The drag link is brand new and not bent. It might look odd in a pic, but it is not bent in real time. I like how the truck drives and have had no issues with bump steer so far, so I am not seeing how it is necessary, but I am willing to listen to arguments for or against it.
 
Ok, well I am not convinced that I need x-over. The drag link is brand new and not bent. It might look odd in a pic, but it is not bent in real time. I like how the truck drives and have had no issues with bump steer so far, so I am not seeing how it is necessary, but I am willing to listen to arguments for or against it.

If you're happy with it, run it. Mine definitely has a bent TRE, and because I had to shorten it when I moved my axle forward it has massive bump steer. I have almost everything to go crossover. All I need is some 4130 tubing, a couple TRE's, the studs and cones for the steering arm, and 2 new sets of ball joints (might as well replace 'em when I swap the knuckles). It's in the works...
 
Thanks guys. Yeah, it sucks, but realistically speaking it really isn't too bad. I checked it out this morning before we got in my other truck and it looks a little better than I thought. The hood is pretty bad, but I think the roof survived unscathed. The right quarter panel has quite a few pocks, but the doors look good. I did lose a part out of my grille, but there was no damage behind it. Mind you, this is all on the right side. The left side is the straight side and it is still straight. So all is not lost.

In one of the calls of condolences I received today, the question of what to do came up. The way I figure it, the only realistic option, keeping in mind my affection for common sense is to replace the glass and keep driving it. Unless I wanted to invest the huge amount of time required to straighten the whole truck and paint it or body swap it and paint it, there really is no reason to do anything to it. It all comes back to the fact that it is not a pretty truck (thank goodness). It's ugly. It doesn't stand much of a chance of changing its status from ugly anytime soon. Enjoy the divots and drive!!

So that is what I am going to do.

I feel really bad for some of my coworkers. Mine looks great compared to some of the cars and trucks. Nice looking vehicles, clean and shiny and they all have texture to them now. Sucks, bad.

Can hail damage be viewed as patina :D? I thought that there were body guys out there that could do paintless repairs. Just smooth out the dents somehow. Might be worth looking into.
 

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