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To run a Carb or not?

@sweetk30 would tell you BroFlow after the trouble he had with the Holley. Personally I'm on the fence because I did have trouble with my Sniper but Holley did take care of it. The downside was I was without an operating truck for over a month.

If I had it to really do all over again, I might actually look at the Holley Terminator setup. It's in the price range of the BroFlow, but there's one big reason for me to look at it. That reason is transmission control. You can get a module for the Terminator that will allow you to control an electronic transmission like the 4l60e or 4l80e - I have the latter. I've already purchased a transmission controller, but if I had known I was going that route from the beginning I could have saved myself money with the Terminator setup.

The fuel system requirements are basically all the same for the aftermarket EFI systems.

I hope to be going to EFI in my 73 C10 daily driver and today I would tell you I'm leaning towards BroFlow. However, I'm not completely set yet. One reason is that ultimately in a few years when I'm ready to put a new motor in, I would like to go with the late 90's 350. Problem is the bolt pattern for the intake to the heads is different from the original 1973 vintage 350. So if I go with BroFlow on my current motor it wouldn't work on a 90's 350.

So I may actually end up with a Sniper again. The options for ECU controlled timing is much less expensive compared to when I installed the Sniper in my 454 crewcab. Plus I'm familiar with it. When I bought the Sniper it was a new product, and now they've had time to work out some of the bugs - at least in theory. When Holley sent me back the replacement unit with a new ECU I noticed it had a newer version number on it so they are changing and updating things.

The other advantage with Holley is you can keep the distributor you have now and run it like that for a while and buy the computer controlled distributor later if you want to spread out your expenditures.
 
For the novice ( me) what is “ecu controlled” timing as opposed to what type of timing? Why is that more desirable.

I’m leaning more towards Holley, but ya know. Hahahahaha
 
I thought that I had already told you that the Edelbrock has 8 sequentially fired injectors and the distributor comes with it.
Maybe I didn't... :dunno:

This means that it fires one injector per cylinder firing event, instead of pulsing a pair, or 2 pairs of injectors for all of the cylinders.
This is part of the reason that the price is higher.
 
you also get a bigger hand held unit @7" view over the TINY 3.5" view of the holley . also wireless over corded with a p.i.t.a plug design .

do your self a favor compare each one side by side apples to apples MINUS the price and make a choice .
 
6872xtc said:
I thought that I had already told you that the Edelbrock has 8 sequentially fired injectors and the distributor comes with it.
Maybe I didn't... :dunno:

This means that it fires one injector per cylinder firing event, instead of pulsing a pair, or 2 pairs of injectors for all of the cylinders.
This is part of the reason that the price is higher.
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You did and after some Internet reading what you said made more sense...
Oops.!.!.
 
i got this hanging on the shop wall to remind me never again . this was a brand new d.o.a out of the box handheld direct from them .

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TJ1978 said:
For the novice ( me) what is “ecu controlled” timing as opposed to what type of timing? Why is that more desirable.

I’m leaning more towards Holley, but ya know. Hahahahaha
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By that I mean the EFI system is controlling timing. It will give you an overall more efficient system and allow you to get the most from running EFI. With Fitech and Sniper, you have the option to run the EFI kinda like it's an electronic carburetor. It still has the O2 sensor and other means to adjust things as needed but it doesn't have the distributor to help out as well. So without the EFI controlling timing, you're hamstringing it a little.
 
6872xtc said:
I thought that I had already told you that the Edelbrock has 8 sequentially fired injectors and the distributor comes with it.
Maybe I didn't... :dunno:

This means that it fires one injector per cylinder firing event, instead of pulsing a pair, or 2 pairs of injectors for all of the cylinders.
This is part of the reason that the price is higher.
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Plus it includes an intake and distributor which would contribute to the higher cost.

If you're going to need to get a different intake to run the Sniper, then you should add the cost of the intake for cost comparisons. Whether or not you need to add the cost of the distributor depends on how important you feel it is.
 
mrk5 said:
By that I mean the EFI system is controlling timing. It will give you an overall more efficient system and allow you to get the most from running EFI. With Fitech and Sniper, you have the option to run the EFI kinda like it's an electronic carburetor. It still has the O2 sensor and other means to adjust things as needed but it doesn't have the distributor to help out as well. So without the EFI controlling timing, you're hamstringing it a little.
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This is how I’m understanding it. Holley type efi, is more or less an electric carburetor. Which you still have a hand in adjusting. With the BroFlo, the computer does all of it, more or less and is running at peak EFI because of how it regulates the firing of each cylinder.

I gather the ProFlo fires more efficiently than the Holley type FI...

From browsing reviews across the inter webs,
Holley seems to split-up like 70-30ish, 30% love it while...

ProFlo, “negatives” other than potentially a slightly higher cost and the wiring a bit more involved, there is no negative reviews, at least that I’ve been able to locate.

So I may as well, if I end going this route just go for the ProFlo to spruce up my 350 or just keep on saving a go LS when the 350 poops out...

Interesting thread and I learned quite a bit, as usual on this forum.
 
If I went to the BroFlow, I would debate about which system to run.

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I guess the question is, would you want it to be obvious you're running non-original EFI or if you want it to still kinda look like it might be a carb.
 
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TJ1978 said:
This is how I’m understanding it. Holley type efi, is more or less an electric carburetor. Which you still have a hand in adjusting. With the BroFlo, the computer does all of it, more or less and is running at peak EFI because of how it regulates the firing of each cylinder.

I gather the ProFlo fires more efficiently than the Holley type FI...

From browsing reviews across the inter webs,
Holley seems to split-up like 70-30ish, 30% love it while...

ProFlo, “negatives” other than potentially a slightly higher cost and the wiring a bit more involved, there is no negative reviews, at least that I’ve been able to locate.

So I may as well, if I end going this route just go for the ProFlo to spruce up my 350 or just keep on saving a go LS when the 350 poops out...

Interesting thread and I learned quite a bit, as usual on this forum.
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The Holley can be just an electronic carburetor, or it can control timing to be more like factory TBI.

Factoring in no other variables than just looking at a TBI type versus multi-port type, the multi-port is going to be more efficient hands down.

I thought it was interesting looking at the reviews on Summitracing, the Holley Sniper I bought has the same overall review rating as the BroFlo. You will probably find more overall experiences with the Holley Sniper just because it is cheaper so I'm sure more units have been sold. For whatever that is worth.
 
PLEASE STOP calling it bro flo . . . . this is going to FU*K with the search engine stuff for others later looking for info on this stuff .

this opinion has nothing to do with my love / hate of specific brands .

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sweetk30 said:
PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A BRO FLO . . . . THIS IS GOING TO FU@K WITH THE SEARCH ENGINE STUFF FOR OTHERS LATER LOOKING FOR INFO ON THIS STUFF .

this opinion has nothing to do with my love / hate of specific brands .
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I couldn’t make what you’re saying, can you make your letters bigger?
Do we have a double capitalized letter function?
Hahahaha
 
Y'all making me want a Q-jet! Lol



(Kidding) :D:D:D
 
TJ1978 said:
I couldn’t make what you’re saying, can you make your letters bigger?
Do we have a double capitalized letter function?
Hahahaha
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You can make text size larger but no reason to antagonize further.
 
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