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Ultimate Tow Rig Ideas
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another advantage to the DT466 is has removable cylinders so it can be rebuilt over and over again which I'm afraid a 5.9 does not have sleeves so it can only be rebuilt a few times
he is asking 12000...not sure on the miles but it has 4 capins chairs,and a fold out couch in the sleeper...
yellowK20 said:
I think that's correct. I see a lot of in-chassis rebuild kits around. I would assume that you can just leave the block in the truck if there's no major work to be done to the crank bearings.
take the xtra 4000 and buy yourself a nice gooseneck deckover trailer...thats a combo anyone would dream of..mikey_d05 said:
mikey_d05 said:
yep as long as the crank doesn't need to come out your good to go
yellowK20 said:
You can't rebuild them continuously. Most guys will inframe a sleeved engine twice and then throw away the block. The reason is because long about the third build you are getting a LOT of miles on the front case and gears. At that point, it's usually cheaper just to find a good running original engine to replace it instead of another inframe and potential front end case rebuild.
It's nick-named an inframe. You do replace all of the bearings though, crank and mains.
mikey_d05 said:That's the point. Seen the price of a remanned or usable 6bt lately? I'm a college kid.
Well, since a DT466 won't work in a 1 ton, especially with a giant brick of a trans, I would say start saving for a B series. I just think a DT with a Road Ranger is just far too heavy. Now, if you could make a small Allison like the 1000 series or a Ford transmission work, then I'd say go for it. It's still border line of being too heavy IMHO.
Both engines are clearly medium duty. But, I would agree that on the very high end of medium duty, life would be a 'tad easier on the DT. With that, I don't think it's any stronger or longer lasting than a B series, it's just a little bit bigger.
A factory Cummins would likely give you more life than you'd need. An HT570 wouldn't be even a candidate IMHO, it's heavier than a 466, right?
A mod Cummins should be fine around 350HP and 800ft lbs, with the correct turbo for that kind of power output. Basically, it would flat out-run a stock DT and still last 300K or so, maybe more if you were using synthetic and had the perfect turbo setup.
Regardless, I think a 1 ton is below you for what you want. 26K is not too bad for a 1 ton, and it can be too much for one....meaning if you drag around 26K every once and a while, piece of cake. If you are consistantly pulling 26K in a 1 ton than it's going to have significant wear on the chassis and drivetrain.
I'd be looking at a Ford F550. Get a lariat 550 with a regular dually box bed, 19.5" alcoas, leather, blah blah, makes some payments and daily drive that sucker!
he's not talking about putting one in a one ton pickup he's wanting one for medium duty like a C-60 or F-650
I like 5.9's there awesome engines but there not do all be alls of the diesel world the DT series of engines is just as widly used as the BT's of cummins
for his application the DT makes sense from a dollar standpoint 6BT's are becoming so popular that there becoming out of reach for low buck swapping
I like 5.9's there awesome engines but there not do all be alls of the diesel world the DT series of engines is just as widly used as the BT's of cummins
for his application the DT makes sense from a dollar standpoint 6BT's are becoming so popular that there becoming out of reach for low buck swapping
Alright RJF, the focus has sort of shifted from a 1-ton to a medium duty. Used internationals are pretty darn cheap. A DT466 can be in framed enough times to last me an entire lifetime in a toy hauler. A 6BT is no longer a cheap option because of the massive popularity. I've found remmaned units that cost 9k+. That's more than half of what I want to spend on an entire truck.
I am not going to sell a car that's nearly paid off and gets 32 mpg to put myself $50k in debt and buy a truck with fuel mileage that I can't afford to DD.
FWIW, dry weight to dry weight a 570 is 100 pounds heavier, and from what I'm told, it's just a stroked 466.
I am not going to sell a car that's nearly paid off and gets 32 mpg to put myself $50k in debt and buy a truck with fuel mileage that I can't afford to DD.
FWIW, dry weight to dry weight a 570 is 100 pounds heavier, and from what I'm told, it's just a stroked 466.
You can get older F550's for not a lot more than your $16K barrier.
I am just not the biggest fan of Internationals. I've always found their trucks to be cheapish. Plus, you stay away from the size of a medium duty truck with an F550.
I am just not the biggest fan of Internationals. I've always found their trucks to be cheapish. Plus, you stay away from the size of a medium duty truck with an F550.
38377k5 said:
I dream of swapping a Dana 80 front and a Dana 135 rear under my crew cab. Air lockers and big disk brakes all the way around.
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pennsylvaniaboy
1/2 ton status
what?
not to be critical but on most tow rigs they dont rack up that many miles. honestly i have a chevy 350 with 250,000 mi. deisels dont hardly have a rebuild date till almost 300k. honestly even in big truck. but the international and go chances are it wont die
not to be critical but on most tow rigs they dont rack up that many miles. honestly i have a chevy 350 with 250,000 mi. deisels dont hardly have a rebuild date till almost 300k. honestly even in big truck. but the international and go chances are it wont die
Where is this D80 front?ARAMP1 said:
