And I've driven blondes, brunettes, and redheads.....whats your point?70~K5 said:
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Weighed the tow rig/truggy/trailer today
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70~K5
1/2 ton status
rjfguitar said:
The point is with Joe's truck being 2wd he can't use the transfer case's low range like you can. He may find there will come a time that his first gear isn't low enough. I've been there and it isn't pretty. How are your dad's OTR trucks set up? If "gear fast/ run slow" with 2.73s to 3.08s sometimes trying to move a heavy trailer in a bad spot can be trouble because you don't have a low enough 1st gear.
ALmost all of our trucks are geared with 4.10's. We run mostly 2 axles locally hauling agriculture and aren't built for out of state running where the speed limit is higher. THis is California, 55mph or a ticket in hand. 
70~K5
1/2 ton status
Well my Pete has 4.11s 1450rpm at 55. I can still run 75- 80 if I needed to.
Goddamn Bruce. We are NOT talking about your "Pete".
There will never come a time that I will need more gear reduction. It's a 3/4 ton truck. Not a big ass semi with an 80k lb load cap. I'm never gonna be pulling more than say, 9klbs. Ever. This truck, and that weight,with these gears, or even the 3.55's will move 9klbs in any situation I'll come accross just fine.
Have you been there with a 3/4 ton diesel truck and a 9k lb trailer? Of course you haven't. It won't happen with that combination. If it were a 302 sb, auto trans, 3.55's, and that load on the trailer then you'd have a point. Or if you had a "Pete" with 85k lbs on the trailer and needed tro manuver in some tight uphill situation...But niether of those is the case, right?
So?
I've driven a 65 ton M1A1 tank with an Allison auto tranny. My tank driving experience, while it sounds cool, has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Your truck driving experience is impressive, but has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Have you ever towed with a Dodge CTD truck? Thats a yes or no question. Not, "No, but I have driven/towed with xxxxx". You're quoting all your truck knowledge/experience in a effort to make people think you know what you're talkin about. People already know bruce, give it a rest.
I've never hit 3k cause I don't like to be that close to the redline. But definatley been higher than 2500...2800 is as high as I've been. When I said it redlines at 3k, I meant that the numbers on the tach turn red at 3k.
There will never come a time that I will need more gear reduction. It's a 3/4 ton truck. Not a big ass semi with an 80k lb load cap. I'm never gonna be pulling more than say, 9klbs. Ever. This truck, and that weight,with these gears, or even the 3.55's will move 9klbs in any situation I'll come accross just fine.
Have you been there with a 3/4 ton diesel truck and a 9k lb trailer? Of course you haven't. It won't happen with that combination. If it were a 302 sb, auto trans, 3.55's, and that load on the trailer then you'd have a point. Or if you had a "Pete" with 85k lbs on the trailer and needed tro manuver in some tight uphill situation...But niether of those is the case, right?
So?
I've driven a 65 ton M1A1 tank with an Allison auto tranny. My tank driving experience, while it sounds cool, has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Your truck driving experience is impressive, but has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Have you ever towed with a Dodge CTD truck? Thats a yes or no question. Not, "No, but I have driven/towed with xxxxx". You're quoting all your truck knowledge/experience in a effort to make people think you know what you're talkin about. People already know bruce, give it a rest.
I've never hit 3k cause I don't like to be that close to the redline. But definatley been higher than 2500...2800 is as high as I've been. When I said it redlines at 3k, I meant that the numbers on the tach turn red at 3k.
Ditto. Know one cares what anyone has driven unless it's the same vehicle at hand. I HAVE driven and towed with my CTD including a loaded truck that was 79K gross. I had plenty of power but was also in 4low. With 3.55's you'll have plenty of low end pulling power and since it's 2wd I would bet you will run out of traction trying to pull something before you run out of power.KidJethro said:
Bruce,
Your Pete with 4.10's is geared close to my dodge with 3.55's. YOu have tires that are somewhere from 37-40" tall tires vs. my 31" tires.
Well I don't know. The gov. is set on 2500 on those trucks stock.I've never hit 3k cause I don't like to be that close to the redline. But definatley been higher than 2500...2800 is as high as I've been. When I said it redlines at 3k, I meant that the numbers on the tach turn red at 3k.
84_Chevy_K10
Banned
KidJethro said:
I've driven several different types of tracked vehicles, one in particular with a 600 HP Cummins V8 and an Allison trans as well. I must be the expert on towing with Diesel powered pickup trucks.
Glad to see we finally agree on something.
70~K5
1/2 ton status
KidJethro said:
Joe I've driven a couple of Dodges with CTDs. I didn't own them they were owned by friends of mine. You may never need a lower gear, then you may find that at some place you do. But do what ever you like with your truck. Can you lock out 1st gear and start in 2nd? If so hook up that trailer with your truggy on it and try it out. See how it pulls from a stop starting in 2nd gear. If that works for you go for it.
70~K5
1/2 ton status
I just went to Dodge's web page. They list tow ratings with 4.10s and 3.73s. they don't list a tow rating for a CTD equiped truck with 3.55s.
70~K5 said:
You are very much over exadurating. Having 3.55's and starting in 1st is lower than starting in 2nd with 4.10's. The difference between the two ratios in question is not THAT big of a difference, especially when you add in the low end torque of the 6BT/ISB engine. You are over reacting about the difference between the two ratios. I own an '01.5 with 3.55's and have ridden and driven in a few other Dodge CTD's. 3.55's are the only way to go unless you plan on a 35" tire or larger (which would then equal to having 3.55's with stock 31's anyway). 4.10 geared Dodges are worthless with the automatic. It is just geared too low for acceleration, especially unloaded. 3.55's are plenty low with stock tires with an auto. With the 6 spd manual you can get away with the 4.10's but an auto truck is what I'm focused on since that is what Joe has.
Don't pull a Dirtwarrior on us and continue to argue.
I take it you don't know dodges very well. IN 2003 they went to a 3.73 and 4.10 ratio. With second gen trucks like mine and Joes it was either 3.55's or 4.10's. Most rolled out with 3.55's.
Bubba Ray Boudreaux
1 ton status
rjfguitar said:You are very much over exadurating. Having 3.55's and starting in 1st is lower than starting in 2nd with 4.10's. The difference between the two ratios in question is not THAT big of a difference, especially when you add in the low end torque of the 6BT/ISB engine. You are over reacting about the difference between the two ratios. I own an '01.5 with 3.55's and have ridden and driven in a few other Dodge CTD's. 3.55's are the only way to go unless you plan on a 35" tire or larger (which would then equal to having 3.55's with stock 31's anyway). 4.10 geared Dodges are worthless with the automatic. It is just geared too low for acceleration, especially unloaded. 3.55's are plenty low with stock tires with an auto. With the 6 spd manual you can get away with the 4.10's but an auto truck is what I'm focused on since that is what Joe has.
Don't pull a Dirtwarrior on us and continue to argue.
I take it you don't know dodges very well. IN 2003 they went to a 3.73 and 4.10 ratio. With second gen trucks like mine and Joes it was either 3.55's or 4.10's. Most rolled out with 3.55's.
It's useless. Just put him on ignore so you miss his occassional attempts at starting trouble with people his pissed off in the past............
84_Chevy_K10
Banned
70~K5 said:
Well what it doesn't say there is that 4.10s are no longer offered in a manual trans truck.
Emmettology 101
3/4 ton status
I've been keeping an eye on this thread just cause I like to read about diesels... I think what 70k5 originally meant to do with listing all the diesel trucks he's driven is to prove to Timmy that he knows alot about diesels... Not to brag or anything. His post was in response to this:
I could be wrong though...
84_Chevy_K10 said:
I could be wrong though...
70~K5
1/2 ton status
Emmettology 101 said:I've been keeping an eye on this thread just cause I like to read about diesels... I think what 70k5 originally meant to do with listing all the diesel trucks he's driven is to prove to Timmy that he knows alot about diesels... Not to brag or anything. His post was in response to this:
I could be wrong though...
You're right, thank you.
