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Well, I decided to stay with 33s...

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seeing as the wheeling that I do doesnt really call for anything bigger. So I decided on 33x12.5 BFG Muds, and I`m going to go with 4.10 gears, and a detroit locker....

But, is a 14FF too much? as far as clearance, is it worth it???
 
I drug a 12 bolt everywhere with 33's , and hung up aplenty . I still do with 35's occasionally , enough to warrant a beefy lipped cover .

Your gonna tag the 14 bolt :thumb:
 
I've been running 33's for 5 years, on two different K5's and have had good success. I think the 14 bolt FF is too heavy and reduces ground clearance too much for a truck that is running small rubber (less than 37's).

After rebuilding my 10 bolt rear a few times I finally decided to switch to a 6 lug 9.5in 14 bolt SF. These will typically cost you more than a 14 bolt FF, but it is much more practical and worth the extra money IMHO because you will still wind up with 9+ in. of ground clearance under the 9.5 pumkin with 33's.
 
Yea, I think the SF is the way to go...do they usually come in 4.10s...and as far as one that bolts right up, what would it have to come out of?
 
pauly383 said:
Look for a mid 90's six lug pickup , like a k2500 . They were had 3.73 or 4.10 . My towrig has one .
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Well, if its 8 lug, I can still grab it, as I think i can pick up an 8 lug 10b with 4.10s already in it...
 
Yeah , 8 lugs work too , sorry I automatically think about the price of rims and grinding calipers , and considering a match to the front gears :doah:
 
For a one that will bolt right in, is it 6 or 8 lug?

Also, do they make a 14SF 8 lug disc brake kit?
 
BIGBLAZE433 said:
For a one that will bolt right in, is it 6 or 8 lug?

Also, do they make a 14SF 8 lug disc brake kit?
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All the bolt-ins will be 8-lug. Just look for a 82-87 3/4 ton pickup to find one. Many will be 14bff's of course, but you will run across some 14bsf's. Another option is to do some serious shaving on your 14bff :hack: :grind: :hack: :grind:
 
MaxPF said:
All the bolt-ins will be 8-lug. Just look for a 82-87 3/4 ton pickup to find one. Many will be 14bff's of course, but you will run across some 14bsf's. Another option is to do some serious shaving on your 14bff :hack: :grind: :hack: :grind:
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Will shaving really make that much of a difference? Any one have pics?
 
BIGBLAZE433 said:
But even with 2" taken off, does the SF still have better clearance?
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Nope. I think if you remove the lip from the bottom you will gain ~ 3/4" - 1" of clearance. That would probably be pretty close to what an unshaved 14bsf would give...
 
stockk5 said:
i think over on pirate there are pics of a HUGE amount cut off.. like 2" of stuff.. here is the link.. look towards the middle over 2" of clearance..

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/14b_bible/index.html
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that envolves clearancing the ring gear. not that easy of a job but hey what u wanna do works. but what if u do that to a 9.5" rear?? even more clearance. uve just gotta figure out what fits ur rig best.
 
Consider that the Detroit locker for a 14BFF will cost you roughly $200 more than one for a 14BFF, and that's on top of how much more you'll pay for a 14BSF than you will for a 14BFF. If you've got access to an 8 lug 10B front, get the full floater, shave it, and you'll have $400-500 that could go towards other parts...
 
BigEasy said:
Consider that the Detroit locker for a 14BFF will cost you roughly $200 more than one for a 14BFF, and that's on top of how much more you'll pay for a 14BSF than you will for a 14BFF. If you've got access to an 8 lug 10B front, get the full floater, shave it, and you'll have $400-500 that could go towards other parts...
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The deciding factor is whether or not he already has the 14bff and 8 lug wheels. If so, use it. If not, get a 6 lug 14bsf, move the perches, install a Detroit, and be happy. Heck, he could throw a lock-rite in the 14bsf and be happy. Using a 14bff to save $200 on the locker is false economy if you have to convert to 8 lug. Since he is sticking with 33's, and it sounds like he doesn't ever plan on going to tires bigger than his 10b front can handle, then there is no compelling reason for him to go to 8 lug. For that matter, the 10b rear will be fine with 33's as long as he doesn't really thrash on it. He could throw a Lock-Rite in there, and really save some $$$. :thumb:
 
MaxPF said:
The deciding factor is whether or not he already has the 14bff and 8 lug wheels. If so, use it. If not, get a 6 lug 14bsf, move the perches, install a Detroit, and be happy. Heck, he could throw a lock-rite in the 14bsf and be happy. Using a 14bff to save $200 on the locker is false economy if you have to convert to 8 lug. Since he is sticking with 33's, and it sounds like he doesn't ever plan on going to tires bigger than his 10b front can handle, then there is no compelling reason for him to go to 8 lug. For that matter, the 10b rear will be fine with 33's as long as he doesn't really thrash on it. He could throw a Lock-Rite in there, and really save some $$$. :thumb:
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It sounded like he had already made his mind up on which locker to use, but not which axle to use. I think trying to talk him into a cheaper locker to use a more expensive axle is false economy. If it wasn't, then why are there so many guys running FF's and not SF's? With the FF, there would be no moving of perches (i.e. bolt-in), and the $200 saved just on the Detroit could easily cover a decent set of used wheels. He obviously doesn't have either a FF or SF right now, so the money saved if he buys a FF instead of a SF could go towards tires. Shaving the axle is a freebie and can always be done later on after he gets up and running. And as far as putting a locker in a 10B rear, we all know that's nothing more than polishing a turd. ;)
 
well, I dont have the axles yet, but when I do get them, I`ll already have a plan for wheels/tires
 
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