blackandgold51
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I've been wondering what's exactly ethanol and is it bad for my 90' V1500 350 gas suburban?
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What is Ethanol?
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unless your setup to run it correctly
its a money / fuel mileage / parts eating product. and it collect water and then seperates to a kind of sludge over time and can cause internal rust to form even with gas over the metal unlike reg old straight gas .
but if setup to run it correctly its a power house of fuel . in the mostly raw un diluted with reg old gas state .
its a money / fuel mileage / parts eating product. and it collect water and then seperates to a kind of sludge over time and can cause internal rust to form even with gas over the metal unlike reg old straight gas .
but if setup to run it correctly its a power house of fuel . in the mostly raw un diluted with reg old gas state .
blackandgold51
1/2 ton status
Now why would the government mandate this if since this is the problem with ethanol?
Conspiracy man!
Ethanol is grain alcohol - the same stuff that gets you drunk. The stuff in our fuel is primarily made from corn, but can be made from a ton of different plant materials. It is a great fuel, having a lot more octane than gasoline, but it also has a let less energy content than gas. So unless you are looking for cheap race gas, ethanol is worth less per gallon than gasoline. The general idea is that adding ethanol to gasoline reduces our oil consumption and supports farmers (?), so the government keeps mandating more.
Right now ethanol is .20 less per gallon here. I run it in everything from my 1954 super H to my grandpas 46 Chevy fleetmaster to all my newer vehicles and small engines. I have NEVER had a since problem. Locally ethanol is made with corn and the distillery grain that is left over is fed to cattle. It supports American farmers.
Do you mean gasoline with ethanol added, like E10? We don't usually have a choice here between pure gas - it's all E10. E85 is usually around .50 cheaper than E10. I put it in the flex fuel truck whenever the cost is 25% cheaper or more - since that's about the difference in mileage. I got E85 for $1.33 a couple weeks ago. They usually set the prices so you get about the same miles/$, but on certain days, one or the other is a much better deal.
blackandgold51
1/2 ton status
Here in new Orleans there's about 10 to 15 percent of ethanol
wetoolowdingbangow
1/2 ton status
Such a crock of shit. I work for the government and they only run e85...guess what! You get garbage gas mileage so you end up using more. Real economical choice.
The only thing ethanol needs to go in better have a big ass turbo.
The only thing ethanol needs to go in better have a big ass turbo.
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Ethanol really ate up all the rubber fuel lines in my old VW bug when they first started using it. I had to replace everything it touched. Haven't had a problem with it since except for lower gas mileage. I don't have that Vw anymore though.
Those old VW's had that funky woven cloth covered rubber fuel hoses ,those things oozed fuel with regular leaded gas back in the day...
I have to replace any rubber hoses on old lawn tractors and other small engines because ones that still have old original hoses often turn to gum or ooze gas out due to the ethanol..small engines ,expecially 2 cycle ones suffer the most from ethanol,due to the fact they often sit a long time between uses and few people bother to use stabilizer ,and once it attracts water,it turns carbs into a cream of wheat factory inside,and plugs up the jet passages...you can clean them spotless,but in where you cant reach is often permanently sealed up..leaving you little choice but to replace the carb..
I have to replace any rubber hoses on old lawn tractors and other small engines because ones that still have old original hoses often turn to gum or ooze gas out due to the ethanol..small engines ,expecially 2 cycle ones suffer the most from ethanol,due to the fact they often sit a long time between uses and few people bother to use stabilizer ,and once it attracts water,it turns carbs into a cream of wheat factory inside,and plugs up the jet passages...you can clean them spotless,but in where you cant reach is often permanently sealed up..leaving you little choice but to replace the carb..
I haven't been able to get regular gas in this state in over a decade, maybe 15 yr's.......
My 2014 Ford Focus is a flex fuel car, but I have no freakin idea where or who sells e85 round here, honestly haven't looked into it either. If its cheaper then gas I'd like to run it but will it ruin the hoses in the car in runs through? Also will my milage decrease? If thats the case why bother running it If its going to cost more in repairs and lower gas mileage in the long run? 
Stomis
Professional Amateur
Seriously...
I went on that gas station database years ago and saw there was one station in this state.
Just for fun I looked up my area in Virginia the other day... Yeah theres about 30 stations in and around where I live/go.
yeah, it's down in bumf*ck piney land..
There's a few places around me that sell alcohol free fuel. The station next to my work has 93 ethanol free.
wetoolowdingbangow
1/2 ton status
My 2014 Ford Focus is a flex fuel car, but I have no freakin idea where or who sells e85 round here, honestly haven't looked into it either. If its cheaper then gas I'd like to run it but will it ruin the hoses in the car in runs through? Also will my milage decrease? If thats the case why bother running it If its going to cost more in repairs and lower gas mileage in the long run?
If its flex fuel its fine to run but its not going to gain you anything, thats whats so silly about the whole mess. The gov vehicle at work is rated for 15 mpg with gas. It gets 8 with e85. Beyond repairs the shit mileage is enough to nearly double your gas bill... in what world does that make sense? Somebody's having their pockets lined.
I had never been to a gas station in Nebraska that didn't offer Ethanol free fuel until about a year ago, when they started allowing 85 octane fuel enriched with E10 to 87.
Martin
Same with Iowa. Never had a problem finding clean fuel. Until last year. In Wisconsin, OTOH, I have had a hard time ever since I moved here (2010). Still do (unless I want 93 recreational gasoline for a >$1/gal price hike). Michigan is worse, as they don't require labeling ethanol content. So you don't have any guarantee of what you're getting (Kansas and several other states are also this way).
Ethanol has less energy content per gallon. I think ethanol is 75000 to 80000 btu per gallon and gasoline is 118000.
In any normal car even flex fuel cars your power output will decrease. If your used to gasoline , you will be accelerating harder to find the same overall rate as gasoline.
Ethanol is a viable energy source but its time has not come yet. It needed tobs of government backing to help the industry grow. Government backing rarely breeds ingenuity
In any normal car even flex fuel cars your power output will decrease. If your used to gasoline , you will be accelerating harder to find the same overall rate as gasoline.
Ethanol is a viable energy source but its time has not come yet. It needed tobs of government backing to help the industry grow. Government backing rarely breeds ingenuity
