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who else here drives without wearing a seat belt?
- Thread starter wazzabie
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I have a bad habit of not putting mine on until I've been driving for a while, then I remember to put it on or my daughter tells me. I have several seat belt tickets too....
When I get in a performance vehicle or if the wife is driving I remember right away
When I get in a performance vehicle or if the wife is driving I remember right away
That looks to have been a Ferrari at one time... hard to tell
H20 Toie
1/2 ton status
yes it was
People not wearing seatbelts definitely increase the cost to others, so saying that it's your choice to not wear one and that it does not affect others is not true. Just one example is that it cost tax money and increases the cost of new cars because of the safety regulations required on new cars to try to protect those you choose not to wear seatbelts. Yes, there are federal regulations that require car manufacturers to design and implement safety factors into cars to help protect those who refuse the seatbelt. Google "out of position occupants" for an example. This was an extensive study performed by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (tax money) which led to regulations for car manufacturers (increase cost of new cars). Part of this testing, in which I performed at my previous job, included making sure that air bag deployment did not cause excessive injuries to people (mainly children) not wearing their seatbelts, such as standing on the front floorboard and resting against the dash.
suckas gotta know...how fast was the vehicle going?
H20 Toie
1/2 ton status
Let me think this through. If I get in my caged truck, I wear a lap belt at 5 mph on trails. If I'm going for some speed, 4 point harness. Whenever I climbed into a race car with exceptional cage, 5 point harness with experienced drivers all around me.
If I get on a public road driving head on with people I don't know on phones and not paying attention, You bet I am wearing a seat belt.
If I get on a public road driving head on with people I don't know on phones and not paying attention, You bet I am wearing a seat belt.
454Sub
5/8 ton status
Once again insurance is brought up. Why is raising insurance premiums a big deal for non seat belted drivers yet nobody bats an eye at the cost of paying for cancer or serosis treatment? I would love this to be explained to me. The cost of medical treatment from smoking or drinking is easily triple the cost of the unbelted motorist. So why does it seem logical to create a law mandating seatbelts yet allowing drinking and smoking like it's going out of style? And I am a smoker, occasional drinker and wear my seatbelt. My son was actually thrown from his mother's vehicle in her roll over accident. But in the end how is one that is actually less expensive to pay for illegal yet obvious ones that the cost is easily triple and the damage done is tremendously more perfectly ok as a choice? I mean factor in domestic problems from alcohol on top of it, heart disease, hell the list goes on and on. If anything that seems hypocritical. Seems like it's ok as long as it can be sold for money and profitable. If they offered a fun windshield ride I would imagine half of the people wouldn't have a problem with it. Anyone with a dying relative due to smoking or drinking would probably see this. The end result is the exact same. A hospital bed then a stainless morgue table.
And I am not advocating not using a seatbelt. I am simply curious as to the hypocrisy of one personal choice vs another when the end result is the same exact grave.
And I am not advocating not using a seatbelt. I am simply curious as to the hypocrisy of one personal choice vs another when the end result is the same exact grave.
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A lot of belted passengers are more severely injured or killed by unbelted passengers flying around in the cab than the accident itself. Documented fact
I agree with @ktmoutfront .
Safer in a racecar than city streets, hands down every day of the year. I'd never drive without a belt with all those other idiots on the street
I agree with @ktmoutfront .
Safer in a racecar than city streets, hands down every day of the year. I'd never drive without a belt with all those other idiots on the street
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Surprised no one has brought up the fact that wearing a seatbelt helps keep the driver mostly planted in his seat which in turn keeps him in control of his vehicle in case of sudden swerve or stop.
The money argument isn't the greatest, we let people waste whatever they want in other activities that cost the taxpayers money.
I say think about the public servant folks who have to mop up people's brains who weren't wearing a belt and crashed. If I can cut them a break by not dying in a crash and making them clean up the mess, I feel better.
The money argument isn't the greatest, we let people waste whatever they want in other activities that cost the taxpayers money.
I say think about the public servant folks who have to mop up people's brains who weren't wearing a belt and crashed. If I can cut them a break by not dying in a crash and making them clean up the mess, I feel better.
Also, my life insurance only pays out 50% if I die without a seatbelt on in a car.
Surprised they dont consider not wearing a seat belt "suicide" so they can refuse to pay out too!..
I drove in a demo derby of sorts,when I hung around a junkyard--we got some junkers running and decided to have a little fun,racing around the dirt lanes and bounce off your opponents car..
--I soon learned how fast you can get knocked out of the drivers seat if another vehicle hits your car near the drivers door,even going maybe 20 mph..with no belt on,I slid over and hit the passenger side door hard,all while still clinging to the steering wheel..arms felt like they were torn out of the sockets,and my ribs hurt a long time..
I also learned 2 other things over the years--either use your seat belt after using Armor-All on a vinyl seat,or do NOT use Armor All on a vinyl seat!...first left turn you take,you'll slide right over to the passenger side..
I drove in a demo derby of sorts,when I hung around a junkyard--we got some junkers running and decided to have a little fun,racing around the dirt lanes and bounce off your opponents car..
--I soon learned how fast you can get knocked out of the drivers seat if another vehicle hits your car near the drivers door,even going maybe 20 mph..with no belt on,I slid over and hit the passenger side door hard,all while still clinging to the steering wheel..arms felt like they were torn out of the sockets,and my ribs hurt a long time..
I also learned 2 other things over the years--either use your seat belt after using Armor-All on a vinyl seat,or do NOT use Armor All on a vinyl seat!...first left turn you take,you'll slide right over to the passenger side..
I always considered it a win for Darwin
454Sub
5/8 ton status
Can't use public service employees mopping up remains either. A doctor or nurse mopping up blood after a liver or lung surgery is the exact same mental agony I imagine. Or dealing with an emancipated cancer patient doing the death rattle. And they are public service as well. Same hospital bed, same morgue table. So once again I fail to see how one is much different than the other except for the profit margin causing them. Blood splattered all over from windshield glass is the exact same color as blood splattered all over from a cancer ridden lung being removed after your chest is cracked open.
I did just no one caught on. This is the one reason I believe seatbelts should be mandated. You can maintain control of your car longer. Very slow speeds can completely relocate you from your seat. And while wearing a seat belt may not help you maintain control in a major high speed collision, it can and will help you maintain control and in some cases avoid an accident altogether.
They're not much different. Personally, as far as I can influence things, I'm trying to avoid donating either kind of blood.
bp71k5
3/4 ton status
Whoops, missed that one.
Sorry, but I will call bullshit on that....
They are trying to save lives, it makes a difference on a person's perception.
It's not the blood, but the trauma that the person endures in the incident to splatter thier blood..
And if you expect people to be uncaring enough to not notice the bad stuff, do you REALLY think they would chose helping people as a profession??
If they didn't care, why would they hustle at all to do their job??
Just to drive fast?
