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Who hates mud flaps?

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I have to agree with what rjfguitar said about how your guys didnt care about how yor trucks looked, I thought you didnt? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif


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I think a persons rig is like their mother. Its okay in your mind for you to call your mom stupid, or ugly but the second that someone else says it, the gloves come off. Its oaky for me to say that my rig is ugly, but as soon as someone else says it, i get all a$$ chapped. Maybe its just me. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif
 
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I just got pulled over yesterday for no mud flaps by a county mounty. They never even look twice usually, it's always the state pigs. While I was sitting there other trucks were driving by with no mud flaps. The guy was giving me the attitude and the bla, bla. Then the I'll give you a warning ticket this time bs. Gee thanks pig don't you have any better things to worry about than mud flaps. What a joke! There is so much crime out there to worry about and they complain there underfunded to do anything about it. How about stop wasting your time to bug law abiding citizens about mud flaps.

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It's called doing the job. /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

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"Doing the job" is relative. It is also about priorities. If a police officer has so much free time that they can make a traffic stop and write a citation for mudflaps then they need to re-evaluate their purpose, the way they represent their colleagues, and their career choice.

I believe a general definition of a police officer's duties are: the preservation of good order, the prevention and detection of crime, and the enforcement of the law.

A police officer's duties are much greater than that. Somehow they need to maintain the respect of their constituents. Writing a citation for mudflaps is not a way to maintain that respect. In today's world, once respect is lost it is nearly impossible to reclaim. They say that thirty years ago 2/3 of the population trusted their fellow man, today that number is down to 1/3. Same goes for police officers. It is really hard to give respect to a person who feels the need to write tickets for assanine things like no mudflaps, a non-working license plate light, window tint, or no fender flares. This is especially true when the newspaper local to the police station is flooded with drunk driving accidents, hit and runs, larceny, and the like.

If the police continue to be the way they have maintained themselves for the last twenty years they'll continue to be paid $27k for risking their lives every day and continue to be called pigs. Police officers do a mighty fine job of ruining everything for themselves, they don't really need to expect much from their contituents.


I have a lot of respect for the police as a whole. However, I respect very few police officers. I respect even fewer as human beings. The vast majority of them suffer from penis envy, are cowards, and handle stress poorly. The police are supposed to be better human beings than the people they deal with. After all, the police are exposed to people at their worst every day and I'm sure it can be very wearing on one's self. If an officer can't be calm and collected then they don't need to be on the street. However, many police officers fly off the handle, are unruly, and just plain don't handle stress well. They don't look at things in the big picture and rarely pretend to look at something from a third-person point of view.

Police officers tend to forget that while they might pull over a hundred people in a month the average person gets pulled over once every few years. Every time that average person gets pulled over they remember it to a fine point. These times are often the only times that a person has an experience with a police officer. The respect they once had for the police is easily turned to "police officers are the scrotum fungus of the human race". Most people can respect getting a citation for something they deserve (like 10mph over, blah blah blah) if they are treated in a civil manner by the police officer. If it's something retarded like mudflaps or if the police officer treats the person like a lesser being then that respect is lost. That should be some food for thought for those law enforcement personalities we've got here at CK5.
 
I do agree with you that "DOING there job" could meen doing betterr things sure thee crime every where and getting a mudflap citation would sure piss me right off, i would most likely argue with him about it. BUT turn it aroun and you nice dd car or what have you gets the window smashed, or dented hood and/or scrached paint, you'll get pissed off too. ( yes i know its not just trucks mine was just done in by a furd tauris) But with our large tread tire we do though a lot more, and as muck as i don't like it if it was an enforced law where i am i would have to comply. He whe is faithfull in least is faithfull in much, i am sure the cop well apresiate it.
 
hey i am not knocking you just stating an opinion NOT atacking you, i belive most here are courteous to there fellow man.
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I know... but I already stated my opinion on mudflaps a long time ago. Our resident popo BRB has been asserting his "superiority" of being a police officer again.
 
Good points, but let I throw this bone out for ya.

Wherever a law enforcement officer is employed, he has a set of laws to enforce. Motor vehicle laws, criminal statutes, municipal ordinances, county ordinances.

Now with that, we can always claim that that it is our job to enforce each and every law without bias, but that would be a bunch of BS. Officer discretion is a key tool that we are allowed to use cause if we did enforce each and every law without prejudice, then we would be very busy, even in the small, rural areas like where I am at.

But to sit here and whine about getting a ticket for what you deem a BS violation, then to blame us cops for it is not the way to go about things. In case you have forgotten your Civics lessons from school, it's not us that pass those laws. It's your state legislatures and city governments. I'm sure they had some sort of lobbying from some civic minded person, or a group, or just got a bright idea after smoking a crack pipe. If you don't like the law, then it's your right as an American to lobby your elected represenatives to get that law changed.

With that being said, have you really learned why mud flaps have become required on certain vehicles? Have you ever come off a dirt/gravel road and heard the rocks go flying? I have a chip in my K5 windshield from a rock that came off a semi and I have two chips in my patrol car windshield, unknown cause since they were there when I received the car. Here's a better example. A few weeks ago, we had a pursuit. Suspect was driving a stock 2003 Chevy extended cab. No mud flaps. The pursuit deputy just had to get a new windshield cause his windshield took a rock that was shot out from a tire of that pick-up.

I'm not a big mud flap fan myself, but how hard is it if you are going to drive around in a truck with your 38" Swampers to fabricate a system so once you hit the trail, the flaps are easily removable? I've seen a few examples and it's not rocket science.

Have a little more respect for other people and their cars out on the road. I doubt you would like it if you were driving down the road and get your truck pelted by rocks and mud.
 
There are a lot of laws to enforce. Tons. But we're talking about priority my dear Watson.

For the most part, police officers choose easy battles. It's the main reason why they target kids. While kids are a major source of nuissance and law breaking they are often very minor. I'd rather you let some retarded kid drive around with 10% tint on his side windows and work on finding out who stole my ATV instead. However, it's a lot easier to torment some kid over a tint law than track down someone who stole a couple grand worth of property. All of this is why kids despise the police. It started with the kids about five years older than me. The police are their own undoing. It's just like the people who are about 38 right now are the reason why kids can't go out and party anymore without being harassed and why the world is at the 1/3 trust level.

If you believe that just because there is a law that you have to enforce it then you should be enforcing more things. It's a responsibility of you to report any police officer's poor actions to his Sergeant whether that officer was on duty or not. I'm sure you've let many things slide of your cohort's. Every time you roll through a stop sign without your lights on, every time you speed without your lights on, every time you fail to signal.

Police officers are often the largest law breakers when it comes to the motor vehicle code. They're also proven to be worse than average drivers. Per mile driven, they have a worse than average incident of property damage. They break the motor vehicle code because they get so comfortable with driving they forget that the laws apply to them as well. They get into accidents because of the nature of their job and that they have so much going on in the car that they don't pay enough attention.

You can get a ticket right now for having that chipped windshield in Michigan.

However, it is about priority. Stop the retarded kid with the window tint and tell him the next time you see him with it in his windows you'll ticket him. Tell him why he shouldn't have dark tint. Tell the redneck in the truck without mudflaps why he should have mudflaps and you suggest to him that if he doesn't have them next time you'll give him a ticket.

When you see a moron driving down the road with more than the 2 @ 55w and 2 @ 35w lights on that if you see him again that he's going to get a ticket.



If your actions make you think that you need to be unlisted in the phonebook then you ARE NOT being a good police officer.

I've already spoken on mudflaps here.
 
So in all of your years of experience and training, you know how to do the job. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Furthermore, there are patrol officers for a reason and there are detectives for a reason. In some places, like where I'm out, we are the patrol officers and detectives, but if you've never had to handle an investigation, let me clue you in on something. It's not possible to direct 100% of our working time to that case. There are times when further investigation is not possible, it's like building a truck; sometimes you have to stop and go take out the trash, or go to your real job because you have to wait on parts before you can move ahead.

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They're also proven to be worse than average drivers. Per mile driven, they have a worse than average incident of property damage.

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I'm calling BS on that one right now until I see concrete proof otherwise.

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I'm sure you've let many things slide of your cohort's.

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Really??????????????????????

Just how many hours do you have riding with a cop? I doubt very many. You have an open invite to come down and ride shotgun with me for an evening, or better yet go to your local department. You may get lucky to get a bum cop, but I doubt it since most administrations know who they are and have the civilians ride with the cops who do their job right. You might see things in another light.

Love to stay and chat, but I've got to go teach some kids how to play the game of baseball. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif
 
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Our resident popo BRB has been asserting his "superiority" of being a police officer again.

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So in all of your years of experience and training, you know how to do the job. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

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Oh, so we're stooping to an all-time low now, eh? "How can you possibly know since you aren't in my field and haven't gone to school for it?" is a typical response of a dolt.

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Furthermore, there are patrol officers for a reason and there are detectives for a reason. In some places, like where I'm out, we are the patrol officers and detectives, but if you've never had to handle an investigation, let me clue you in on something. It's not possible to direct 100% of our working time to that case. There are times when further investigation is not possible, it's like building a truck; sometimes you have to stop and go take out the trash, or go to your real job because you have to wait on parts before you can move ahead.

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Yeap, but I bet there are plenty of departments that have less than 10 full time officers that have no detectives. I'm pretty sure most everyone knows that an officer can not dedicate all his time to any one thing. However, when there are plenty of serious things going on and yet they stop someone for something as petty as mudflaps that is pretty retarded. I guess that's job security.

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They're also proven to be worse than average drivers. Per mile driven, they have a worse than average incident of property damage.

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I'm calling BS on that one right now until I see concrete proof otherwise.

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Call up your insurance company.

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I'm sure you've let many things slide of your cohort's.

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Really??????????????????????

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More than likely. When was the last time you held a fellow cop accountable?

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Just how many hours do you have riding with a cop? I doubt very many. You have an open invite to come down and ride shotgun with me for an evening, or better yet go to your local department. You may get lucky to get a bum cop, but I doubt it since most administrations know who they are and have the civilians ride with the cops who do their job right. You might see things in another light.

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Again, this is stooping to a new low. It's assuming that I can't know anything because I'm not a cop.

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Love to stay and chat, but I've got to go teach some kids how to play the game of baseball. /forums/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif

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Please, leave your cop persona in the car.
 
i was just told by a cop who pulled me over(and let me go) on one spot in the highway where it drops from 100 to 80 km/h that he thinks its rather stupid that thats the pspeed limit but since there have been a few re ending he has to be there the whole day, i saw him over 9 hours later, same spot. Although its was [to him, and many i am sure] a stupid limit he was still there doing his job enforceing that dumb law. Its not the cops fault that he has to enforce a 'dumb' law but it is his duty.


I am sure few a cop that really hates mud flaps are the one out there trying to get every trucker, sure there is biased cops there imperfect humans too, but there doing the best they canenforceing the reasonable AND reasonable perfectly aceptable laws that most of us trust and depend on.

I hate it when i get busted for speeding, and it cost me but i even help them
( i wen back to pull out a cop from the ditch that was turning around to give me a rather large tickit.)
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Our resident popo BRB has been asserting his "superiority" of being a police officer again.

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Our resident popo BRB has been asserting his "superiority" of being a police officer again.

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It seems like he's trying to make up for something else. He's always on the defensive when it comes to anyone in his profession whether he knows the whole situation or not. His defensive behavior is so overzealous it is often offensive. Someone needs to leave their police officer attitude at the station where it belongs.

The Iraqi children seem to think he's trying to make up for something as well:
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Oh, so we're stooping to an all-time low now, eh? "How can you possibly know since you aren't in my field and haven't gone to school for it?" is a typical response of a dolt.

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I don't tell a brain surgeon how to do my job, so why should I let someone with no experience, training or knowledge on how laws are created in this country tell me how to do mine?

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However, when there are plenty of serious things going on and yet they stop someone for something as petty as mudflaps that is pretty retarded. I guess that's job security.

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And you have personal knowledge of what and how many types of calls departments get? I guess maybe next time when I see someone with a broken out taillight driving down the road at 2am, I should just move along there's absolutely no possibility that it could be a bad guy, while ten miles down the road there's a remote possibility that Farmer John is getting his pickup stolen at that very moment in time. Oh wait, I just let a drunk driver go and thirty minutes later, he collides head-on with your wife who was returning from her job at the hospital.

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More than likely. When was the last time you held a fellow cop accountable?

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Haven't had to.

It really amazes me at the amount of stupidity that comes from the general public about law enforcement. Kind of reminds me of the time when I was in beautiful Hawthorne, NV last year and the town do-gooder tied up a deputy sheriff for an hour cause the race promoter's father rolled through two stop signs at about 2mph. I'm sure he had something better to do.

If you don't like the laws, then go back to the Civics lesson comment I made earlier, lobby to have them changed. That's the way it's done, otherwise, kindly refrain from making idiotic comments about something that you truly have shown that you know nothing about.

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They're also proven to be worse than average drivers. Per mile driven, they have a worse than average incident of property damage.



I'm calling BS on that one right now until I see concrete proof otherwise.



Call up your insurance company.

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Last but not least, real funny picture. HAHA.

You made the accusation, now provide the proof.
 
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I don't tell a brain surgeon how to do my job, so why should I let someone with no experience, training or knowledge on how laws are created in this country tell me how to do mine?

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If you're going to rant, at least do it right.

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However, when there are plenty of serious things going on and yet they stop someone for something as petty as mudflaps that is pretty retarded. I guess that's job security.

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And you have personal knowledge of what and how many types of calls departments get? I guess maybe next time when I see someone with a broken out taillight driving down the road at 2am, I should just move along there's absolutely no possibility that it could be a bad guy, while ten miles down the road there's a remote possibility that Farmer John is getting his pickup stolen at that very moment in time. Oh wait, I just let a drunk driver go and thirty minutes later, he collides head-on with your wife who was returning from her job at the hospital.

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Your sole method of debasement of me is that there is no way that I can know anything because I'm not trained as law enforcement. That's pretty shaky, at best.

I said priorities. You're really stretching here. In fact, I think you've already reached the elastic limit of stupidity. At 2am, I doubt there are many things you can do besides paperwork so why not let the guy know he has a broken taillight or a headlight out? Drunk driving is a far more serious offense than some guy tooling down the road with no mudflaps. C'mon, you can do better than this.

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More than likely. When was the last time you held a fellow cop accountable?

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Haven't had to.

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Good. I hope you do the right thing when the time comes. And it will come.

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It really amazes me at the amount of stupidity that comes from the general public about law enforcement. Kind of reminds me of the time when I was in beautiful Hawthorne, NV last year and the town do-gooder tied up a deputy sheriff for an hour cause the race promoter's father rolled through two stop signs at about 2mph. I'm sure he had something better to do.

If you don't like the laws, then go back to the Civics lesson comment I made earlier, lobby to have them changed. That's the way it's done, otherwise, kindly refrain from making idiotic comments about something that you truly have shown that you know nothing about.

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You already admitted that you have the power of discretion and that you use it.

If someone doesn't make people realize that there are consequences for doing something stupid like rolling through stop signs, failure to yield right-of-way, and the like they'll continue to do it.

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They're also proven to be worse than average drivers. Per mile driven, they have a worse than average incident of property damage.

I'm calling BS on that one right now until I see concrete proof otherwise.

Call up your insurance company.

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You made the accusation, now provide the proof.

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I've spent the last thirty minutes googling for it. I have yet to find it. I didn't read it on the internet anyway, I watched it on TV. It makes perfect sense to me. It's just like motorcycle enthusiasts, the longer they've been riding the more likely they are to get into an accident because they get too comfortable on the bike.
 
I'll tell you alittle story. About 15 years ago a drunk driver ran a red light and totalled my 77 Monte Carlo (Nice car, I had alot of money invested in it.) There were witnesses. Now here's the kicker. The drunk driver was a off duty cop. He smelled of booze big time. Sevreal empty beer cans in his car. Did he get a ticket ??? Did he get arrested ??? HELL NO !!!! It was writen up as a no fault. Did I get a insurence check for my loss ??? Nope, no fault, and I didn't have the money for a atty to take it to court. Please don't take this as a cop bashing, it's just to point out how cops stick up for each other at the public's cost (My car) even if they're in the wrong /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif
 
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